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Walter Jacobson, M.D.

Walter Jacobson, M.D.

Posted August 29, 2010

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Is Glenn Beck Right?

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Glenn Beck has the right idea about focusing on God. Unfortunately, he is going about it the wrong way.

By that I mean: Yesterday at his Restoring Honor rally he spoke of uniting people in God. Tomorrow, however, he will broadcast on radio and TV a message of judgment and attack, utilizing labels that diminish those he disagrees with, encourage divisiveness and generate anger and aggression in his followers.

This is counterproductive to what he says his God intention is.

YOU CAN'T SERVE TWO MASTERS

Rather than judging and attacking his brothers and sisters who he believes are misguided and/or evil, if he truly wants to unite rather than divide, and welcome God into everyone's mind, then he needs to find a way to see the good in everyone despite how they're behaving.

He needs to tailor his message so as to gently guide people to the truth of God and Love, and in so doing help them make better choices.

God is Love. Love is unconditional. There can be no exclusions or exceptions.

Contrary to what many people think, God does not take sides. This is an interpretation of the ego. It is not the reality of God.

God does not love some people and hate others. God does not welcome some people into heaven and banish others to hell. We must discard these old, tired concepts of an angry, vengeful God who smites enemies and curses people with plagues and misfortune.

This God is not real. There is but one God and he loves us all, even those who are deeply disturbed and degenerate.

Glenn Beck said that his Restoring Honor rally was about God and not politics. That's good. Honor and God go together. Honor and politics do not. People may think they do, but that is another con of the ego mind that wants to keep this world inflamed and confused.

Bottom line: It's not going to be particularly effective to have one symbolic day devoted to rallying behind God, if the rest of the time we are in a judgment and attack mode.

If Glenn Beck wants his vision of God and the restoration of honor to take hold in this country it would be best that he put aside his politics of fear and hate.

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All the answers to your questions or wondering about God are in the Bible. He sent His one and only son, Jesus to die a horrific death on the cross for us to save us from our sins and to give us eternal glorious life with God. God opens the door to EVERYONE - no matter gender, race, ethnicity, young, old, poor, rich, etc. He invites people from all religions to accept His son as their Lord and Savior. God doesn't hate people; He created us and loves us to the great extent He allowed his child to die for us. It grieves his heart that people don't put their faith and trust in Jesus. Yes, there is a heaven and a hell, but God created us with free will to make that choice.

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I thank you for your comment but I find it odd that you prefaced it with: "All the answers to your questions or wondering about God are in the Bible."

Nowhere in my blog did I pose any questions or wonderings. I'm beyond the place of questioning or wondering about God or His Plan. I am secure in my understanding of God and my Faith in Him.

I believe you simply wanted to express your understanding of God and you used my blog as an opportunity to do that, which is fine with me. I will now respond to your comments:

I'm aware that there are many people who take the Bible literally but I'm not one of them. I am a big believer in the Bible as being a book of great wisdom and truth but I see it as a flawed document, flawed by human beings who chose to change aspects of it and interpret aspects of it in ways that have distorted some of its meaning.

I do not believe that God sacrificed his Son to an horrific death or that God's heart grieves, as you put it. It is my belief that God is eternal Joy and Peace and knows not suffering of any kind, nor would He create it for another.

I believe the concept of Jesus Christ suffering for our sins in order to save us is a metaphorical one. It was a lesson for us to learn: that regardless of what we think we have done in our lives, we are guiltless and sinless, eternally loved by God and eternally a part of His Kingdom.

Jesus's death suggested that the body is real. But his resurrection demonstrated that the body is an illusion, as is this entire world we think is real, which is why we need not feel guilty about anything that happens here, just as we need not feel guilty about our actions in our dreams. Illusions have no power in Reality and Eternity.

This world is a dream we made, not the Reality God Created.

The Crucifixion by itself is meaningless. It only has meaning in conjunction with the Resurrection. I believe Jesus himself chose to be crucified and resurrected in order to teach us that we are like him, that we are the Son of God, and that we are eternal, invincible, invulnerable Spirit as is He.

Jesus was saying to those who crucified and destroyed his body that, "You can attack my body, and you can think you can destroy and kill me, but you cannot. In three days I will resurrect my body and demonstrate to you that I am not a body but rather eternal Spirit that transcends the body.

It is my belief that "He died for our sins" really means he died to show us that sin isn't real, that the ego isn't real, that anything born of fear isn't real, and if we accept Jesus Christ (i.e. if we practice the principles he preached: unconditional forgiveness, acceptance and love) we will appreciate that the Kingdom of Heaven is right here all around us, that there is no past and nothing we think we did ever happened. There is only the Eternal Now of Peace and Light and Love.

I absolutely believe there is no such thing as hell. It is not real. It is an invention of the ego, of our fear and judgment. It was manufactured by our ego mind and God has no part in it. It is illogical to think that an omnipotent, eternal, invulnerable, all powerful and all knowing being would banish any of his children to eternal suffering and pain. No loving father would do this. God knows we are like little children and even the most horrific things we do to each other here are not real, they are the angry, judgmental dream actions of frightened children who know not what they do.

God accepts all of us into his Kingdom and there we learn what Love really Is: that we are Love and never actually left God's Mind.

I suspect that you and many others may find what I have written intolerable, that it will inspire some of you to want to write wrathful responses back at me. I welcome any counterpoint, but please know that this is not a debate. I am sharing my thoughts and will not likely pursue a string of arguments or defend a string of attacks. It is irrelevant what I believe. Your Faith In God is all that matters and it need not be threatened by the perceptions and beliefs of another. Peace be with you.

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Dr. Jacobson

You obviously have the ability to rationalize things with precision and accuracy.

I would recommend you spend some time studying "Moral Relativism" and in that,
decide how you believe it impacts the Christian belief system.

There is a bit of irony in there for those who are playing close attention.

BLXLI

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Blx...
thanks for your comment. i'm not sure if your first sentence was praise or a stinging refutation of my blog post position. i suspect the latter, won't know for sure i suppose until i look into moral relativism, which i shall do. shall i just google and wikepedia it or do have a particular book that nails the subject to your liking?
best regards,
walter

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Walter:

"i'm not sure if your first sentence was praise or a stinging refutation of my blog post position. i suspect the latter,"

I always mean exactly what I say. It was not sarcasm, and it, of itself, can not refute your position.
No one can come to the kind of conclusions you settled on without time, effort, logic, thought and conviction.

I am honored that you would take any of your time to look into a subject simply because an absolute stranger recommends it. However, it is only more evidence that my assumptions of your sincerity, and desire for knowledge and truth were accurate.
You may start your investigation wherever you see fit.

I respect that you've already expressed you have no intentions of turning this into a debate on your blog. I have no intentions of doing such on your page either.

However, if you desire to continue a private discussion on the matter ... Im sure we can find a way to exchange e-mail addresses that does not expose them on a public blog/forum.

The Holy Spirit be with you.

BLXLI

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Thanks for your clarification and kind words, BLXLI.i would like to continue the discussion and am okay with doing it here because it will not be an adversarial experience which is what i prefer to avoid in blog comments. if our goal is knowledge, the more exposed to it the better.
best regards,
walter

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BLXLI -
regarding moral relativism.. i actually started looking into it a while back but haven't gotten around to responding till now... but from my reading it seems that there are various forms of moral relativism but the common theme is that morality is relative and that different cultures can have different definitions of morality..
i agree that moral relativism exists just as ethical rationalizations exist, i.e. people decide that because they get paid squat and get treated like crap it's okay to steal pens and copy paper from their employer... although the rationalization may make it easier for them to steal without feeling much guilt or shame, it's still stealing and it's still not appropriate....
and with moral relativism, i believe this is just a variation on that theme.... i believe there are certain behaviors that are right and certain behaviors that are wrong and people and cultures can spin doctor all they want, but it won't change the truth. one of the best examples i can think of are people who are against abortion because it is the killing of a human life... and yet most of these people have no problem with sending troops to invade a foreign country and kill as many people as are necessary, soldiers and civilians so that they can feel safe and secure. the relativism is that they believe the situations are different because in the case of war, they rationalize that they have no choice, that war and killing enemies is necessary in order to protect self and country... that argument can certainly be made, but it doesn't change the truth that killing people is wrong. you can make exceptions to help you sleep at night and rationalizations that help you believe you are not a hypocrite, but the truth is the truth, in my opinion: if you are against abortions you should be against war, in my opinion, and you should be against capital punishment as well.if you maintain life is sacred and it is a sin to kill, then you best be consistent, even if it's inconvenient... torturing people is wrong even if you think it will save lives. the ends do not justify the means. we must treat others as we wish to be treated... growing chickens in crates, shooting them up with antibiotics and then killing them for food is wrong. we may justify that it's okay... we may decide that free range chickens is more humane so killing them for food is okay... because we've all gotta eat... but as most people know on this website, there are plenty of other choices if we wish to indulge our conscience and our humanity rather than our ego and our selfishness.... thanks for the opportunity to explore this topic. what do you think? best regards, walter

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Sorry so long to reply myself sir.
I have moved, and I was ill for some time.
Along with some standard job stress. :)

So far we are exactly in agreement on fundamentals.
Im not surprised at that either.
"morality is relative" = False
"truth is the truth" = True (Ha, that sounds funny.)

I think my next question will uncover our true debate.

Where exactly does absolute truth come from?
For our sakes, Ill add "For Christians, where exactly does absolute truth come from?"

Assuming you may say "God"...
How do we know what Truths He tells us?

All His best to you.

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I would say to you that Truth doesn't come from God, but rather that Truth IS God: God is Love. Love is the only Reality and Truth there is.... If it's not of Love, it's not of God and it isn't real, it's an illusion, it's not the truth....

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Hello!

God is Truth, God is Love. Agreed.

So when two people disagree on what truth (God) and love (God) is, what absolute non-negotiable "ruler" can the two people go to, in order to "measure" their two different opinions, to decide who correctly knows the truth (God)?

and / or

In what way has God shown us Himself (truth and love) that we can use, or go to for guidance, correction, and direction?

AHBtY

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If truth is love, then we don't need to define what truth is if we define what love is. another way of saying this might be: if love isn't in your truth equation then the equation will never yield truth. so people need to know what love is and agree upon that, and then when they want to gauge truth, they just need to see if love is the guiding force woven into the fabric of whatever they're evaluating. so people need to agree upon what love is. i believe love is unconditional acceptance and forgiveness, seeing the face of Christ, so to speak, in everyone and everything. but there is no authority to go to that will prove this to anybody who is unwilling or unable to see or agree with this. the ultimate voice for god is inside each of us. a course in miracles regards that voice as the voice of the holy spirit. that the holy spirit in us is our means of communicating with god. acim says the holy's spirit's voice is as loud as your willingness to listen. which means the voice of God of truth of love, of guidance and direction is accessible to each of us if we're willing to turn down the volume of our ego, unplug our distractions for a while, and listen. so there is no non-negotiable ruler or arbiter of the truth of god and love. each person must corroborate that truth for themselves. in what way has god shown himself and guidance we can rely on? i believe the sermon on the mount and what the Christ preached was an attempt by god through man to instruct humanity as to what was the Way to behave and what was necessary for its long term survival: to give, to share, to care, to forgive, to accept, to love unconditionally, to turn the other cheek, to treat people as you wish to be treated. there will never be an authority because the authority will always be crucified by those whose egos are raging with fear and vengeance. so the answer is to teach our children to embrace the holy trinity: truth, compassion and calm in their minds at all times and to role model these ideals in their actions.... eventually.. one mind at a time, one child at a time, the collective consciousness moves from fear, hate, greed and war to love, unity, community and peace.

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Greetings!

Here now we have cut enough fat away that we stumble into the meat of what I disagree with.

“…people need to know what love is and agree upon that” – Agreed
“…there is no authority to go to that will prove this to anybody who is unwilling or unable to see or agree with this.” – Agreed, not even God/Jesus in the flesh was enough.

“…so there is no non-negotiable ruler or arbiter of the truth of god and love. each person must corroborate that truth for themselves.” - Disagree
What is the difference between this and Moral Relativism? That being that morality, truth and love is relative to each individual. Even if this Truth is God, as no human but Christ was perfect, each person would be left to use flawed intellect, flawed emotions, and a flawed spirituality to distill what that Truth is. If we cant use or trust anything else where do we turn?

“…i believe the sermon on the mount and what the Christ preached…”
Why? How? On what merits?
You have also said…
“I'm aware that there are many people who take the Bible literally but I'm not one of them. I am a big believer in the Bible as being a book of great wisdom and truth but I see it as a flawed document, flawed by human beings who chose to change aspects of it and interpret aspects of it in ways that have distorted some of its meaning.”

So if it is indeed flawed as you believe, and it is that fawed nature that keeps you from accepting it all as written, then how can you as an equally flawed human being decide to keep The Sermon on the Mount, and then throw out another part as flawed? What standard are you using to decide? How "you feel" about what you read? How "you understand" what you read? "Your attunement" with the spirituality of what you read?

I would pose the question if you believe you can not accept what the bible tells us as it is written because it is flawed, then where does that leave you accepting what you tell yourself, a certainly flawed human being?

Without some kind of non-negotiable source, outside the bounds of human reason, feeling and spirituality, we are left with the Moral Relativistic foundation of every individual independently insisting that they truth that they see is what is true.

Without some kind of non-negotiable source, outside the bounds of human reason, feeling and spirituality, you and I will run circles forever pointlessly saying in either one way or the next, back and forth to one another “I feel Im right.” “I feel Im right.”.

There will no doubt be a third person that could step in and say they feel were both wrong.

God is more competent and loving than that to leave His children in such a state.

AHBtY

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You misunderstood my point. I was not saying that the Truth be left up to people to decide what it is. What i said or meant to say was that each person has to discover the Truth, independent of their personal perceived biased truth, for themselves. This process requires evolution of the spirit, elevation of the consciousness, and will not come about by some guru, saint, pope or christ like figure. People hopefully will be influenced by role models in their lives, including any gurus, saints, popes or christ like figures that might come along, who have discovered the Truth for themselves, not a truth, but the Truth, and eventually Know the Truth without anybody having to tell them.... Where do we turn? Since the ego will invalidate and crucify the messenger, there is no place for an individual to turn but within, to look within, to learn to think, to open up one's channel to God, our Higher Power, our angels, our Oversouls, our Higher Consciousness... whatever label you want to put on it.... there is a Source within each mind that is connected to Truth/Love/God..... (this is what God did to help us find the truth, this is how he has not abandoned us; we have the ultimate arbiter of Truth in our mind) .... eventually people will discover that this is the only game in town, that the "meek" shall inherit the earth. not the weak. not the scared, not the passive.. but the gentle, the peaceful, the loving, the forgiving....
why do i personally put faith in the sermon on the mount and not other passages in the bible that i perceive to be mumbo jumbo propaganda..... i studied comparative religions, spiritual writings, new age alternatives perspectives, etc. etc..etc.... and i came to the conclusion from all i've read and from my life experience that the principles of unconditional love, acceptance and forgiveness is the prime directive and what i want to aspire to.... this is what each individual must do..... there is a TRUTH that is not relative. over time, and it may take a VERY VERY VERY LONG time, every mind will discover the Truth and be unified behind it. could i be wrong? sure. but that's not the point of our discussion. the point is there is a Truth people can get to if they have the willingness and if they are able to put aside their ego unconditionally... there is an expression about not throwing the baby out with the bathwater....because i perceive the bible as a flawed document in many respects and a allegory in many ways doesn't change the fact that there, in my opinion, is great wisdom and enlightenment that can be gleaned from it if one has the willingness and the humility... as for what faith do i put in myself as a flawed human being to be able to discern the Truth?.... again, my studies, my experiences. although i don't always practice what i preach, i do, a fair amount of time, and i have seen the power of unconditional love and forgiveness, free of ego and judgment, transform angry, contracted people. and i have seen healings as well, that many could easily refute but which i label "miracles"... we are so disconnected from our higher source that we don't even realize that miracles are only the exception to the rule because we are so stuck in our fear, rage and confusion. miracles are the natural expression of unconditional love.

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Hello!

I do understand what you have expressed. However the degrees difference between rose and crimson are sometimes hard to discuss … and that’s the arena we are in at the moment.

I understand that you are not saying people “decide” what truth is themselves, but that they find/discover the Real Truth for themselves.
You are saying that people do not decide that an apple is red, but in finding/discovering the apple they will come to know what “red” is. (and that apple for that matter)

“…there is a TRUTH that is not relative [and] every mind will discover the Truth and be unified behind it. could i be wrong? sure. but that's not the point of our discussion.”
This IS in actuality the point I am trying to analyze along with you. We both agree there is an Absolute Truth, but how do we know what weve discovered is the truth?

So, to use a real life example, you have looked within and found that the Bible is not to be used as a guide of absolute truth, yet I have found that the Bible is to be used as a guide of absolute truth.
You will say what I have found is not actually the real truth, I will naturally say the same about you, both of us with a measure of respect and genuine love for the other as well I suspect.

Now, how do we ever find or show who is correct? And found the correct “truth”?

I am suggesting that truth is outside, not within. Which is why I look outside myself, to the Bible. For once we look within and find anything, we must be then comparing it to something outside to say “Ah, yes, this is the real thing.” The same way a man compares fools gold to real gold to know which is which, or the same way we compare counterfeit money to real money.
You need the real thing to begin with, or you could never find it. The same way you couldn’t find the real “Bagadatwrixt” in a bucket of them until I told you what the real one was to start with.
You say everyone can find this truth “within”, but here I would only repeat myself … “Without some kind of non-negotiable source, OUTSIDE the bounds of human reason, feeling and spirituality, you and I will run circles forever pointlessly saying in either one way or the next, back and forth to one another “I feel Im right.” “I feel Im right.”.
As you can see, we are already starting to take turns on that merry-go-round.

AHBtY

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Hello!

Everything you have said is based off of your understanding of / or how you feel about "X".

Truth is not what anyone or anything tells you, its what you think, feel and believe you have found it to be.

That is moral relativism.

AHBtY

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not at all. i totally disagree and am baffled as to how you put together what i said and came up with that conclusion. my position on moral relativism is the same as expressed initially: there is a Truth independent of what people think and believe, including me. I recognize my belief system may be wrong. I'm a work in progress. Moving toward the light. Fortunately, i've picked a belief system which makes me feel good about myself in relationship to myself and in relationship to others and society. my belief system is liberating, brings me joy and peace of mind. And neither imposes on nor hurts others.

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Greetings!

I did not say " ->You are I said "-> That is

You exampled that perfectly in your response.

This is the definition of Absolute Truth, this is what you believe. "there is a Truth independent of what people think and believe, including me."

However you have, picked a belief system based off of a personally perceived truth. A situational truth. What could be more personal than something found "within"?

That in your opinion, isn't "relative" to you?

What you seem to be saying is, I do not believe in moral relativism. I believe there are apples, and they are red, but, I have found this thing, and for now, from my perspective, I believe this thing I have found is The Red Apple.

No?

AHBtY

P.S. Due to no fault of anything other than the complexity and convictions of our beliefs, unless we start writing small books back and forth to one another, I believe we are reaching the limits to what productive communications we can have. :)

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i agree that we have reached an impasse. you repeatedly misinterpret what i write, i presume unconsciously, in an attempt to make my words consistent with your impression of me or your agenda. i'll say it one more time and then you can have the last word if you wish: the fact that i think i have stumbled upon the Truth does not make me a moral relativist. Truth is not relative. It has an absolute value independent of the values individuals including myself place upon it. Thanks for the conversation.

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Fellow Child of the One True God:

You remind me deeply of the Scribe Jesus spoke with.

------- Mark 12:28-34
Then one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, perceiving that Jesus had answered them well, asked Him, “Which is the first commandment of all?”
Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God, the LORD is one. And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ This is the first commandment. And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”
So the scribe said to Him, “Well said, Teacher. You have spoken the truth, for there is one God, and there is no other but He. And to love Him with all the heart, with all the understanding, with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love one’s neighbor as oneself, is more than all the whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.”
Now when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, He said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” -------

You and the scribe are alike ... as I see it.
I do not recant anything I have said about you.
You have true sincerity, and I could not deny that you "have answered wisely",
and just as Jesus said to the scribe “You are not far from the kingdom of God.”

A question remains though...
if after Jesus acknowledged the scribes wisdom in understanding Truth and Love
... why was that not enough?
What was the scribe missing in-between or beyond Love and Truth
...that placed him only "not far from" instead of solidly IN the Kingdom of God?

Be wary my enlightened Brother.
The Father of Lies seeks to confound or bedazzle no one more,
...than when they are "not far from" but not yet IN the Kingdom of God.
It is simply to close for him to endure.

I will monitor this blog for quite sometime if you ever so wish to look me up in the future.

Until then ... All His greatest blessings to you.

BonusLitteraeXLI

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i really enjoyed this last comment of yours and the parable of jesus and the scribe... and i believe i have an answer for you as to why the scribe and i are not far from the kingdom of God as opposed to being in the kingdom of God: we understand the Truths, we Know they are the Way.... but to apply the principles consistently and unconditionally, well that's the ticket to heaven. so we have a ways to go, to not just understand and preach the Word, as it were, but to live it, to be a living testament...
as for the temptations of the Devil, the Ego, the reptilian brain diverting us from our path, yes indeed, it behooves all of us at all times to be paying attention and avoid seduction.

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Greetings:

I wanted you to know I have a very important response to your last post.

Important enough it requires planning, study and prayers on my part.

I would ask you join me in the last requirement.
Prayers that I be given words of The Truth, and that if I am, you have a mind open to understand them, and a heart open to accept them.

From that point Ill have nothing left to do...
...we will both leave it in the hands of God then.

For now I go off to think .........

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To: God Loved

God is Love, that is something humans can understand and accept relitivally well.
However, God is also HOLY, and that, we do not so easily understand or accept.

-God can not stand anything that is not perfect.
Habakkuk 1:13
13 You are of purer eyes than to behold evil, And cannot look on wickedness.

-God hates all imperfection.
Romans 1:18
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,

-Gods rejection of anything imperfect even brought about the condemnation of angles … with no hope of salvation.
2 Peter 2:4
4 For (if) God did not [even] spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;

-All humanity fails to meet Gods standards of absolute perfection.
Romans 3:23
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

-Worse still, humanity embraces what God hates.
Romans 3
10 As it is written: “ There is none righteous, no, not one; 11 There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God. 12 They have all turned aside; They have together become unprofitable; There is none who does good, no, not one.” “ Their throat is an open tomb; With their tongues they have practiced deceit”; “ The poison of asps is under their lips”; 14 “ Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness.” 15 “ Their feet are swift to shed blood; 16 Destruction and misery are in their ways; 17 And the way of peace they have not known.” 18 “ There is no fear of God before their eyes.”

-God looking for anyone that seeks Him, only finds a race that not only is not looking for Him, but rejects He even exists.
Psalm 53
1 The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, and have done abominable iniquity; There is none who does good. 2 God looks down from heaven upon the children of men, To see if there are any who understand, who seek God. 3 Every one of them has turned aside; They have together become corrupt; There is none who does good, No, not one.

-Even when we try to be pure and holy, even our very best is filthy to God.
Isaiah 64:6
6 But we are all like an unclean thing, And all our righteousness are like filthy rags; We all fade as a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, Have taken us away.

-The price for imperfection is death.
Romans 8:
23 For the wages of sin is death

-After understanding all of that. After comprehending how much God finds all imperfection to be an abomination, know this …
Romans 5:8
8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

-Gods love overrules all judgments. Not even we can judge and condemn ourselves.
1 Corinthians 4
3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you or by a human court. In fact, I do not even judge myself.

-Even if we try to condemn ourselves. Even if our hearts condemn us as guilty, Gods love simply overrules it.
1 John 3:20
20 For if our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things.

-We are eternally and infinitely separated from our sins, and so also eternally and infinitely separated from Gods wrath and judgment.
Psalm 103:12
12 As far as the east is from the west, So far has He removed our transgressions from us.

-In paying His own price for sin by dieing, and then by rising from that death, God has replaced the absolute doom of His judgment, with His irrevocable proclamation of salvation.
Romans 8:
31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? 33 Who shall bring a charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies. 34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

-Even all existence at once … would have no effect on Gods love for YOU.
Romans 8:
38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, 39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

-So death is nullified. You will live forever.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that He gave his only begotten Son, so that whoever believes in Him shall not die, but have everlasting life.

- Jesus is the only way.
The above verse says "believes in HIM" not something/one else.
Jesus also said so Himself many times.
He said He is the door, and coming in any other way than the door makes a man a thief. (John 10:1-11)
He says "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)

I know you have many arguments against Jesus being the only way to Salvation, but all of what I would reply could get distilled down to this.
I believe that it makes perfect incontrovertible sense that the only way TO God, is THROUGH God.
That, is exactly what Jesus is.

From: God Servant

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I believe "Jesus is the way" also... but i don't take it literally as you do, as in the idea that people have to embrace jesus christ as their lord and savior... i believe when jesus said, I am the way, what he was really saying was.... what I stand for, what i symbolize is the way, the ticket to heaven, the secret to eternal peace..... and what he stands for is what he preached.... forgiveness, acceptance, love, generosity, sharing, caring, empathy, compassion, grace, humility..... no one will get to heaven if they don't embrace these principles and apply them in their lives.

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Greetings:

Diluting the purpose of Jesus to "Jesus was a really good example that came to tell us we should be as really good as we can be." strips Jesus of His true purpose.

The Christian idea is that humans, having fallen from grace, into the condemnation of the law, cant be "good enough", because the only thing good enough for God (who is Holy) is Perfection.

Hence the need for Jesus.

Even Enoch and Elijah, who were so "good" they didnt need to die, still needed the sanctification of Jesus to make them Perfectly Pure.

Anyone who fails at any one point is doomed by sin.

James 2:10-11
10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,”also said, “Do not murder.”Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.

The same way being in space with even a tiny hole in your suit will kill you. It dosent matter how many or how large, you will die just the same.

Jesus telling us how to get to heaven by following rules would be like an astrophysicist telling a child how to get to Alpha Centauri.

Jesus didn't show us the way, or tell us the way to do something ... He DID it for us. He IS the way.

Love IS the answer, the door and the key.
It makes sense that the greatest perfect act of love eternity will ever see is the pure and guiltless, selfless, willing sacrifice of Jesus (God) on the cross to pay a debt we could never pay for.
It makes sense that it would take a God to do something Godlike.

As I said, no matter what I say from here on how, it all will come down to nothing makes more sense than the only way to God is through God.

The only way to be one with fire is to be fire. All else is consumed. The only way to be one with Holiness is to be Holy. Jesus is the only way to Holiness. Not Buddha, not Confucius, not a really nice caring grandma, and not just some really good guy.

Jesus. Because that's what the Bible says.

You see, this is why I started this conversation with a question on Absolute Truth. I believe that God gave us the Bible as His Absolute Truth. I also believe God is competent enough that I can trust that He didn't allow His most important message to us to be warped by Satanic Intrusions, or Human Faults.

It is an absolute to me. Rather I feel like it or not, understand it or not, agree with it or not, prefer it or not.

If Absolute Truth is not something concrete. If its something we can all find by ourselves, in ourselves, of ourselves, everyone will go out into the wilderness and come back with what "truth" they best feel they found.

For as long as we converse, I am bound within the rules of the Bible. It is my Absolute Truth.
Without something, without rules, to confine people, they can flit and move throughout their logic to whatever feels right to them.

Look at the evidence even in the truth you have found. How many concepts of this truth are founded in doing the reverse of how you feel?
Forgiving when angry, giving when greedy, chaste when lustful?

How could it make sense that every impulse and perception humanity has is wrong and can not be trusted because it is polluted, EXCEPT the impulse to find truth, and the perception needed to accurately identify it?

Brother, in sincerity and Love I tell you: You believe there IS an absolute truth, yes I know.
However YOUR "truth" is relative to you.

Nothing can be partly perfect. "Partly Perfect" is an oxymoron. Humans are not perfect, there is nothing perfect in them, and you found your truth by looking inside yourself right?

A man who looks into a box will not find anything outside that box.

BLXLI

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thanks for sharing your belief system with me.
best regards,
walter

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W.J.:

In a hollow world such as we find ourselves, I have nothing but respect for your genuine sincerity.

Indeed, all His best blessings to you.

BLX

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