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From: Frija ( -
Subject: Re: I don't
Date: February 20, 2006 at 12:09 pm PST

In Reply to: I don't posted by Anna on February 16, 2006 at 3:37 pm:

I think there is a difference between riding in someone else's car which has leather in it than purchasing such a car (which I would never do). I do not purchase leather products and find them repellent. But I don't see how it will make veganism more acceptable as a concept if I make a big fuss over someone else's leather seats. Let's say I go out with some coworkers after work, and one of them offers to give me a ride home. I accept and go to their car with them. But oh, no, those seats are leather, sorry I can't accept the ride from you after all? How do you think that would make me look to that person? How would it make that person feel? Would it really make them think "hey, leather is morally wrong, I better give up my car and buy one with cloth seats?" I think they would be more likely to think, wow, vegans are extremist wierdos, and turn them against considering vegan ideas. Even if I managed to make them feel bad about their dead animal-skin seats, making someone feel bad or guilty isn't really a positive way of motivating them to change their actions.

I'm just saying that sometimes compromises are necessary to live in the real world. I'm more interested in spreading vegan ideas in ways such a showing people that vegan food is yummy, not disgusting, than I am in trying to live as some kind of paragon of virtue. It is better to be kind to people than berate them for things I find wrong such as leather seats. I do things that other people find wrong, such as living with my boyfriend before marriage, and if they berate me about that or make me feel bad about my choices, I'm really not likely to be open to their viewpoint. I try to keep that in mind when dealing with non-vegans. I eat dinner with my family while they eat meat. Does that make me a bad vegan? Should I refuse to eat with them? Would that change their minds? I don't think so...

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