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From: pixiegrl ( -
Subject: Re: hating the label, need to vent
Date: January 31, 2006 at 7:34 am PST

In Reply to: hating the label, need to vent posted by katie on January 30, 2006 at 7:26 pm:

Katie, I feel your pain. I go through the same inner debates and frustrations you're describing here. I come at it from the point of view that since it is IMPOSSIBLE to be a "pure" vegan in the modern world (since animal products are so everywhere), I do the best I can in each situation. Usually this pans out like so: If I know the person who made it, I ask what's in it. If it's not vegan, I pass. If I can read the label, and it contains something that may or may not be vegan (you know, "natural flavors" and such), I don't stress about it. In a restaurant, I only worry about the obvious animal products. As in "hold the cheese," but I don't spend 10 minutes going through the list with the waiter: "Does this contain whey? casein? was it cooked in chicken broth?" I just have to give myself a break sometimes. I'm still using a lipstick that isn't cruelty-free because, frankly, I haven't found a vegan one I like. I'm still working on the personal-care products part of it. I use some that are vegan and some that aren't.

You're right, though, I do find it hard to decide when to make an "exception" when I'm with other people because I don't want my friends to go, "but you ate the thing with butter, why not my home-made ice cream??" Etc., etc. Nothing in life is without cost, and I'm afraid these hassles are par for the course for us on this path.

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