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|From: ||Sally (220.127.116.11)
|Subject: ||wow what a nightmare this person had at Doug's fasting retreat. no wonder people are dying and being harmed |
Date: || August 27, 2014 at 6:48 pm PST|
In Reply to: Recommended reading posted by Dr Gosia O'Reilly on August 27, 2014 at 7:43 am:
I read the link to Myra's fasting experience that Gosia posted. In case
you didn't, I am copying and pasting it here:
My experience at Doug Graham’s fasting retreat
by myra //
June 19, 2012
I fasted with Doug Graham in CR in 2008 for 30 days and can back up
much of what Michele wrote in her post here:
The fast did resolve my migraine headaches and nausea which I had
suffered from for many many years. I haven’t had an episode since
the fast, four years ago.
However, I did experience and observe many negative and unsafe
practices during my fasting and recovery periods that I would like to
share here……This is by no means everything that went on during my
stay, but it’s a start. Please feel free to ask any questions….
Long before the fast I asked Doug if he would like some kind of health
assessment from me. He replied with “I know you.” I wasn’t asked
any questions about my health history at all. I didn’t have any personal
health discussion with Doug of any kind during my stay. Though
Doug had recommended I fast for my severe migraines/nausea,
throughout the fast he never inquired how I was doing with this issue.
I discovered by the end of my stay that he didn’t even recall the
original reason for my fast. I later learned that none of the other
fasters were required to submit a pre-fasting health form.
Because of detox (presence of ‘gunk” in my throat and mouth) that
stayed with me throughout the fasting and recovery periods, I was very
dehydrated (thirst and low urine volume ouput) due to being unable to
tolerate water. I felt fear and vulnerability and unsupported. Doug
constantly sidetracked my questions and concerns. One day during
the recovery period I felt myself becoming increasing irritable and
ended up breaking down emotionally, crying out about my thirst.
(After my return home, still experiencing the same detox, I remained
dehydrated and unable to consume watery fruits or plain water.I took
it upon myself to eat a small amount of cooked food to stop this
detox. This worked and I was able to comfortably drink plain water for
the first time and to tolerate fruits again. Furthermore, I began to
experience cramping in my hands and legs to where I at times could
not open my hand from a closed position. This resolved as I took in
One night towards the middle of the fasting period, my roommate, an
elderly woman, passed out as she was sitting on the toilet and fell to
the floor, cutting her face and losing her tooth. (note: There were no
safety grab bars in the bathroom though many of the fasters were
weak and dizzy with sit/supine to stand movement.) Though
extremely weak I somehow managed to walk down some outside steps
and get help from an intern. One of the fasters, an ER doctor by
profession, gave my roommate stitches. One of the interns, who
happened to be a nurse back home, assisted. Doug observed.
During one of our previous conversations, my roommate had shared
with me that she had blood pressure issues in the past. I have no idea
if Doug was aware of this.
This same roommate ended up unable to move her bowels during the
recovery period and suffered such pain until Doug finally gave in to
allowing her an enema. Another faster shared with me that the
previous year Doug had refused to allow her an enema so this year she
secretly packed one in her suitcase to use, with success.
I observed the interns to be overworked….like slaves. Except for one
intern, the rest were very upset and unhappy and met a couple of
times with Doug expressing their complaints. Towards the end of the
retreat Doug and Lennie ended up putting some time in the kitchen to
help relieve the interns. This entire situation was very stressful.
Though there was lots of food available for the interns and later for
the recovering fasters, there was hardly any variety…certainly not what
one expected in a tropical country. The oranges were very unripe,
sour even. We also learned that the fruit was not organic though we
had been led to believe it would be. Doug was not pleased when a
group of interns and recovery fasters shared a taxi into town to buy
some other fruit.
Doug was often sarcastic and brusque with certain fasters, including
myself. Lenny, his assistant, acknowledged this behavior in him and
shared that one of her roles was to buffer the intensity of his moods.
Though I had observed these moods during previous events I attended
with Doug, I was able to let them go and not be affected. But as a
faster, and one who was dehydrated, I really yearned for and needed
calmness, groundedness, and compassion from our fasting supervisor.
Instead, I often felt vulnerable and weak and full of a fear for my
health that I had never experienced before.
This entire experience affected me very deeply to where I was unable
to talk about it for a long time. I first felt safe to share it with Michele
over the phone and then I wrote a short testimonial on her invitation
only forum. And so this is the first time I am sharing openly, mainly in
hopes that others may learn from my experience, but also as a ways
towards healing…thanks for listening.
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