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From: Joan (
Subject:         Until now, this has been the bash-Harley board by Paul
Date: August 20, 2014 at 9:27 pm PST

If you look back a little through the Archives of the Raw board, you see this
fellow Paul looking to take swipes at Harley.

Like this post:

From: Paul (
Subject: Doug Graham caused the military coup in Thailand!
Date: May 24, 2014 at 2:26 am PST

I wouldn't be surprised if Harley convinces the gullible sycophants that visit
his/their site and watch his/their videos that Doug was the one to cause all the
recent turmoil in Thailand. He is after all guilty of all the ills befalling mankind.

So apparently on the Raw board under Doug Graham, it was acceptable to take
swipes at Harley, even though Harley was not welcome here at the time.

When someone asked Paul why he was doing this, Paul responded:

From: Paul (
Subject: Re: Purpose
Date: May 24, 2014 at 3:55 pm PST

In Reply to: Purpose posted by Bronwyn on May 24, 2014 at 2:37 am:


My aim is to wake people up from their sleeping state and see the
evil at play by a certain couple who are trying their best to derail this
whole movement.

They are trying to disparage and discredit anyone of stature in the
low fat raw food movement to their own $ advantage so they're the
only voices left. It seriously reminds me of the things I've learned
about Germany in the 1930's and it saddens, sickens and disgusts
me. I am just trying to be the voice that stands up to evil before it's
allowed to take over. I hope you and eveyone else reading this
understands my position better now.


and Paul wrote:

From: Paul (
Subject: Re: Purpose
Date: May 24, 2014 at 9:50 pm PST

In Reply to: Re: Purpose posted by lynne on May 24, 2014 at 7:49 pm:

Bronwyn and lynne,

Unfortunately sometimes you need to get down into the gutter and
get a bit dirty when it comes to certain people. It's not nice but
unfortunately that's the way the REAL world is. It doesn't help
sticking your head in the sand and thinking everything is fine. It was
people thinking like you that allowed WW2 to happen.

Life is not all fruit and roses.


So in these posts from May, Paul actually justifies Harley's current posts here,
because Harley is exposing an evil, someone who appears to be responsible for
serious lapses and unprofessional conduct, at a minimum.

Who are the people in the "Graham can do no wrong" cult? Is that Paul and
Bronwyn? So what has Harley stated that is wrong or slanderous? Specifically?
Are you saying he forged the documents linked below on the state of Florida
website? The ones that show why Doug no longer has a license in the US? What
exactly is Harley saying which is false and defamatory? I would like to know.

Do Paul and Bronwyn need de-programming? Isn't Harley simply asking
questions to try to get the cult followers to begin thinking in a critical way?

Most importantly, why doesn't Doug answer these questions?

These are not "patients" but "clients," per Doug's own words. Once Leah comes
forward and talks about it, then any confidentiality is broken and Doug is free to
defend himself, if he has any defense.

Doug can talk to people privately and of course he can lie at will. But he
apparently won't speak in a forum where he is not able to delete and block
people. He would allow posts that bash Harley, like Paul's, but not questions to
himself. Those he deletes and falsely blames vegsource for his deleting.

Harley and others have done a service by bringing these horrible abuses to light.
Whether you agree or disagree with his nutrition views, Harley is a hero in this
for exposing some very serious problems, and for thereby potentially helping
people who without this information, might have been willing to give Doug
$8,000 for a water fast. Now, hopefully, they will think twice and research deeper
before going down that path.

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