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|From: ||Go Bananas (22.214.171.124)
|Subject: ||Joe - a young woman almost died from HYPONATREMIA following Harley's advise |
Date: || August 20, 2014 at 6:42 pm PST|
I'm posting this here because I just saw Joe's post and
having hyponatremia, was asking Harley for advise. He asked
that nobody respond to his post except Harley, so I am
honoring that request and hopes he sees this.
A young woman named Stacey was hospitalized and almost died
from hyponatremia from following Harley's advise to pound
down the water until she peed absolutely clear (no color).
He said if you've slept enough and you're feeling fatigued,
you're dehydrated and just drink tons more water! But one
of the symptoms of hyponatremia is fatigue and hyponatremia
is typically caused by overhydration which can cause an
Please take heed in any advice from Harley especially where
hyponatremia is concerned - it can do more damage than good.
He is not a doctor and hyponatremia is a life threatening
condition. Stacey luckily recovered and didn't die because
she saw a Michael Arnstein video a few days earlier and was
able to recognize the symptoms, and took measures in the
emergency room to save her life. Andrew Perlot also has a
very good video he just put out on hyponatremia - I've
posted link below.
Stacey posted her experience with hyponatremia on 30 bad and
it was either ignored or never seen by Harley (my guess is
the latter as he is notorious for editing other peoples'
posts or deleting them altogether. I have copied her story
here for anyone interested - before he deletes it:
A night of frustration and learning (hyponatremia)
Iím not really sure where to begin this post because itís
intertwined in so many things.
One night I was not feeling well. I just got back from a
cycling class, showered, had some water,went to eat and
started to feel out of it. Itís a very strange feeling. Like
I could pass out, while everything was clear at the same
time. I happened to be home alone for the week, so I decided
to call 911 because I didnít feel like it was a good idea to
try to go to sleep unmonitored. Iím not sure exactly when
this happened, but I think it was right after I called the
ambulance, I remembered one of Michael Arnsteinís videos on
hyponatremia. I quickly youtubed it and got about half way
and didnít bother watching more (maybe because I was
anxious, or just disoriented). I was pretty sure that this
was the problem. I considered that my glycemic levels were
low, since the feeling was somewhat similar, but doubted it
Skipping ahead, 3 firefighters and 2 ambulance crewmembers
were standing in my kitchen. I was trying to explain that I
thought my salt levels were too low. They start asking what
kind of diet I eat. 3 of the three people were obese. The
other two would have been fine if they lost 20-30lbs. Then
the woman gives me the protein bit. I was pissed needless to
say for so many reasons. This was a new way of being judged.
Normally I tell the people or am prepared for situations,
and if they talk back, so what. But in this instance, I felt
like they were looking at some dumb girl who had no idea
what she was doing.
In the ambulance, (shaking/shivering by this point) the man
asked me if I get tired of eating bananas all day. The truth
is that this has been happening on and off, but I just said
back something that I had seen Dr G mention in one of his
videos relating it to the guy who goes and get a hamburger
every day for lunch. I think the conversation about food
ended with him saying ďwell I like to enjoy how I feel and
thatís why I donít worry about what I eat.Ē I had no desire
to keep this conversation going, but in my head I was
screaming ďdo you really feel good from what you eat?!Ē He
looked like heíd get out of breath if he tried to walk 1/2 a
mile fast, and I bet he has to take his antacids every night
They decided to take me to the waiting room, where it took
maybe 3 hours from the time I was in the ambulance for them
to take me to a room. (I am not a fan of the medical system
if it doesn't become obvious). As I waited, the shaking
turned into something in between convulsions and shivering.
The attendant at the desk said that it would take a long
time for me to experience detrimental effects. We were
prioritized by severity of the case according to one of
them. As I sat there shaking, I managed to see a guy with a
bloody lip go in ahead of me. I came to the point where I
figured it was up to me to save myself and found a vending
machine with Gatorade. I drank half of it because I had no
idea how much salt would balance me out and if there were
negative effects of getting too much at one time. Eventually
I was admitted and the only thing i got was tests and an IV
(which was the only thing I said i needed 3 hours before)
A few other side notes of the night
The doctor wanted to make sure I was getting my b12
supplements. He seemed confused but didnít respond rudely,
(which was nice) when I said my body was taking care of
that, but I would get tested (This night helped me realize
that the best counterargument when people say Iím deficient
is having tests that say Iím not).
I was also low in potassium from how much I had been making
my kidneys work.
So what I've taken away from this- I know hydration is
important, but I'm not going to aim to drink any amounts or
pee completely clear (especially if I havent been consuming
a lot of salt).
Get test and monitor yourself if you're still getting used
to this diet. I thought I was bloated from either not
drinking enough of having too much fat. I think my
inconsistent bowl movements (diarrhea twice that week and
often feeling constipated) were caused by my imbalance and
not a response to fruit. I thought my fatigue during the
week was just my body trying to catch up on the certain
nights I was working and not sleeping enough. I understand
there was a reason behind my random moments of being
annoyed. Although it was my second week back at the gym
since 8 months, my muscles felt like jelly after my spin
class for a different reason.
There was a teeny question in my mind that night in the
hospital if this was the best choice for me. I am still
convinced there is no better way to live one's life. I'm
happy. I made mistakes and have learned. This is the longest
I've stayed raw and have no intention of ever changing.
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