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From: MM (
Subject:         Loren fled the country when a woman died
Date: August 19, 2014 at 10:21 pm PST

In Reply to: Re: Loren Lockman?? Are you JOKING?? posted by Jonas Sunshine on August 19, 2014 at 8:46 pm:

There are court documents where Tim Trader was working
at his fasting clinic back East and a diabetic woman
died under their care and Loren fled the country
instead of appearing in court.

Victoria Arnstein fasted with him and had an awful
experience. See the thread she wrote here:

You get what you pay for with Loren. His prices are
cheap for a reason.

Go to True North if you need to fast, but honestly, I
don't think people need to fast.

Dr. Max Gerson brought late stage cancer patients back
to health with a low-fat vegan diet and tons of
juices. Save your money and your life doing some other
protocol other than fasting.

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