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From: MM (
Subject:         Thanks and FYI
Date: August 19, 2014 at 9:11 pm PST

In Reply to: Half truths. posted by Durianrider on August 19, 2014 at 5:26 pm:

i left because you accused Neet of taking drugs
because she was talking about steamed greens and
green juices and she said she wasn't taking drugs.

It wasn't until a few years later that I saw a video
that she did where she admitted that she had been
taking drugs and cleaned herself up. She never
admitted this to me ever and still allowed me to
believe that you guys harassed her publicly for no
reason. A lot of people were banned in that thread
sticking up for her, too, including Ann Gunn.

I still think that issue could have been handled
better in person and not on a public forum, but
having had a mom who was an alcoholic and drug user
I understand where you guys were coming from.

I'm glad she's clean and sober but I e-mailed
Freelee an apology a few years ago on her Youtube
channel and I don't think she ever got it? I don't

At any rate, Doug wasn't the only person lying to
you guys, FYI.

Next time, e-mail, call or Skype me okay? That could
have save a LOT of trouble.

And thank you for the apology. Doug has been lying
for a long time to a lot of people. Lennie called
them "fish tails". He called me a liar when I told
him he had said at his culinary clinic that a woman
had died when fasting with him who didn't disclose
she was a diabetic. He said I was starting rumors
when in fact he had said that in front of about 15
people including Kathleen Leonard who remembers him
saying it. A guy by the name of David O'Boyle had
asked him and he was at the first WFF and was on one
of Dan McDonald's videos of the closing dinner
towards the end.

One thing I don't do is lie. I prefer to sleep well
at night with a clean conscience.

So glad Jeff Nelson took away Doug's ability to
delete posts. Finally we're having some honest
communication here.

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