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From: Durianrider (
Subject:         Half truths.
Date: August 19, 2014 at 5:26 pm PST

In Reply to: Harley posted by MM on August 19, 2014 at 9:05 am:

1. NOBODY EVER got banned for saying they needed some vegan
starch dishes due to fruit shortages or financial situations or the fact
they couldnt get enough calories from fruits due to not wanting to eat
cold bananas on a winters night in Alaska. Thats just NOT true!

People were abusive to moderators and got the boot. That said, most
of those people are back on. Jonas Sunshine has been banned 5 times.
What other health forum has such relaxed returns policy? LOL!

30BaD was started in feb 2009. I started promoting McDougall as a
back up plan on my videos in december 2009. What was the change? I
was just meeting more and more people who could not travel to asia
like we could and they lived in Australia or could not afford the
organic fruits like we could. So a 'back up plan' was in order.

2. Regarding doug's malpractice behavior. Yes I was aware of it via you
but didnt have the facts. Doug lied to me in person and via emails so I
believed him over you. Im sorry. What changed was after woodstock,
people wrote me and shared their experiences with doug. A few sent
me blood tests. Then Leah got in contact with me and the rest is
history. Then yesterday someone sent me some Florida court
documents from 1999 involving a man who died after being in doug's
care for some time.

I was lied to by doug and I apologize for not chasing you up for more
information. Now I have the information, I can make better decisions. I
can't stand health frauds in our community.

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