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From: el-bo (
Subject:         Re: hey el-bo
Date: August 19, 2014 at 12:30 pm PST

In Reply to: hey el-bo posted by gary on August 19, 2014 at 11:39 am:

>> el-bo. you don't control youtube ads. i don't accept
that accusation. we can justify all kinds of
accusations when we have it in for someone <<

accept it or don't. he is taking handouts from the very people he
shuns. you might argue that he has to partake to get his message
out, and yet you only have to look at most of his youtube output,
much of which consists of lies, manipulation of events and hit-
sensationalism e.g "look how big that effing boil is", and you realise
that maybe all is not right. if he were a 10th the person he thought
he was, he would upload to other sites that don't operate on the
same system

that he is helping to sell more hamburgers is just the most
hilarious thing

and what are you talking about "having it in for someone" ??
personally, i don't care about the fool, but it is interesting that you
are happy to let slide how much he has lied, and laid into others he
has it in for, whether justified or not

>> I just ask for your peace of mind and for his sake,
that you consider that your accusation about his not
getting on doug's case sooner is missing out on the
fact that people sometimes don't feel justified in
acting until enough incontrovertible evidence is in.
I was the same way, giving doug the benefit of the
doubt until the evidence was sufficient.<<

the evidence has been sufficient for a while now, at least for people
to start being more than a bit wary. discussions about the
malpractices and negligence at doug's retreats have been going on
for years now, and this whole leah issue could have been avoided if
people started asking the right questions, instead of waiting for
incontrovertible evidence.

make no mistake, harley has known about all of it. hasn't he got
some huge raw truth manifesto, detailing all these different issues
?? the moment they got demoted as pioneers, they decided it was
the time to tell everyone about what they knew. had they not been
promoted, we wouldn't be having this conversation, doug would
still be running this board, and leah would be another statistic

my peace of mind is intact. i did my part over the last few years,
you are the one pandering to a liar. have fun with that

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