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From: Derek Holmes (
Subject:         Re: derek
Date: May 21, 2014 at 12:28 pm PST

In Reply to: derek posted by dg on May 21, 2014 at 10:42 am:

Everything you say about this case is opinion as is my input as well so I will refrain from taking part in this discussion any more. It's like talking to a brick wall and that is not why I am here. It is not lending support to people who want to succeed on a raw food diet. This board is for support of that goal.

Nothing of what you are saying is factual. It is opinion. You are entitled to that but if you are conflicting with the rules of the board you should not be posting. What you think this board should be is completely irrelevant. Start your own website if you want to debate.

I do not agree with you that money distorts every person's motives. I know that it can but Dr. Graham has shown complete consistency throughout his entire career and has not shown any lack of integrity.

I will not respond to any more of these posts as it is a total waste of my time. I like to use my time here to add input if I can help someone or ask questions for things I need help with. Engaging with you, Harley, faster (aka nzyme/powerlifter/chris) or anyone else who is not here here to learn or help is a waste of my precious time on this beautiful earth.

I will speak to one last point that you seem to be ignoring over and over again and it is that fasting is not dangerous at all. The fasting track record is far far better than any other medical procedure out there and there is no reason to be wasting your time arguing these points if you care anything about health. You are taking more of a risk doing anything under anaesthesia then you ever will fasting. Spend your time criticizing the medical establishment, pharmaceutical companies, dairy/meat/grain industries, chemical companies, and all the other well known industries that cause death and disease on a massive scale and are somehow acceptable. These are the problems the world needs to take on. You are not saving anyone here dg. You really have to think about that.

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