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From: Derek Holmes (
Subject:         Re: why don't you explain the second example
Date: May 16, 2014 at 10:07 am PST

In Reply to: why don't you explain the second example posted by dg on May 16, 2014 at 9:47 am:

I know nothing of that case so of course I won't comment on it. To make assumption or take someones second hand information about it would be irresponsible. I assume Harley knows nothing of it as well except for heresay. Too many assumptions. Because of Harleys track record I definitely would not consider his information as true since he has been spewing misinformation ever since he was de-pioneered. It tells me that this case probably wasn't anything like what he says it was.

I am not giving anyone a free pass. When I want to learn from someone I look at the history of the individuals actions, successes and failures and I see that Dr. Graham knows more about health than most people alive today and has genuinely helped more people overcome illnesses than most. His track record speaks for itself. He is always consistent and gives free help through this board. He even was generous enough to invite me to a lunch with his interns after a fast once and share a lot of information with me free of charge. He is a stand up guy. As for Harley, he makes videos slandering and attacking people, he is usually angry in some way, doesn't seem like he can handle his emotions, has used and is still using troll-like behavior, makes false accusations he knows to be untrue(I know this for a fact) and is not consistent with his advice.

Like I said instead of focusing on this one case that is invalid instead use your energy to start looking at the medical world that is guilty of atrocities that we should never be handing "free passes" out for.

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