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From: Alex (
Subject:         Re: scientific community and 80/10/10
Date: November 10, 2013 at 9:15 am PST

In Reply to: Re: scientific community and 80/10/10 posted by Dr. Doug Graham on November 10, 2013 at 8:48 am:

How did debunking appear in this conversation? In my view, there is
no reason to debunk 811 as anyone who will consider trying it
seriously even as an experiment will be able to see that positive results
are apparent (up to a certain point).

My questions were more about fostering scientific collaboration to
advance 811 further and make it better especially taking in account
the ever-changing terrain of the contemporary world e.g. societal
change, ecological factors, unique fruit specifics (re: look at those
mysterious persimmon constipation threads, possibly there isn't an
answer available yet) and so on. There is a good amount of interesting
cases in 811 that are ripe for scientific exploration and there always
were. We could all benefit if this process was happening, don't you

Then again, if you consider 811 perfect as it is in terms of scalability
and future potential, you might not have an agenda to consider
adaptability boost that scientific collaboration has potential to give if
applied with an open mind. Fair enough, if so. One could argue that
natural hygiene disappeared into obscurity specifically for the same

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