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From: Illu (
Subject:         Very strange, testicles shrunk when I went vegan
Date: September 25, 2013 at 10:28 am PST

Ok this is very strange, I was told by some guy on a forum I
could ask Doug directly about this. I was hesitant at first
because this is very strange but he said Doug has probably
got questions in the past that were more weird so here goes.

The thing is I tried being a vegan high carber (811 style)
for only 4 months.

The shocking thing happened to me only 2 months in, my
testicles shrunk by around 50%, massive testosterone
decrease??? Not right nutrients to produce sperm???
Sexdrive also dropped dramatically, Iím 30 years old and was
in excellent health before I started and was eating pretty
low carb paleo.

Now Iíve heard of many stories of sexdrive dropping but I
havenít heard really any story out there about testicles
shrinking so not sure what to think of this.
Also this happened so fast (2 months vegan, I quit vegan
after 4 monts), I transisioned into vegan from very high fat
low carb in just 2 weeks, maybe it was too agressive for the

Could this have some link with women losing their period
when going vegan?

If talking about testicles shrinking most people would think
like steroids, had no idea this could happen just by doing a
little vegan experiment.
Now did the inclusion of starchy foods make matters worse?
I also started getting wrinkles on the palms of my hands and
started feeling depressed, depression is the only big health
challenge I've had in my life previous.
Then I fainted on 2 random occations and I was not even
standing up or doing anything particular that could explain
why this happened. Body temperature decreased, cold hands, I
always used to be a guy who tolerated cold weather really
well before.

I was eating massive amounts of fruit but was also eating
lots of rice with some lentils, potatoes, oat, grains, leafy
greens, veggies and stuff you know, for additional carb
I bought organic produce as much as possible, bananas, rice,
grains, vegetables,apples, oranges. Some foods like
different types of melon I could not find organic, dates I
could not find organic nor fresh so I bought dried. I did
not consume any soy products, mostly avoided wheat and
refined sugar.

I was drinking water when I woke up, usually half a litre, I
always was drinking water troughout the day, probably around
2-3 litres per day and at night if I woke up.

My sleep was at least 8 hours per night.

I was excersising, some walk/running in forest, weigths,
just basic stuff like 3-4x week but was cutting back on
excersise after 3 months because I felt weaker.

I had usually 3 big meals a day

Meal examples:
breakfast - 10 bananas or 15 date smoothie, sometimes 2-3
plates of oatmeal, corn, buckwheat porrige mix with berries
and ricemilk or oatmilk.

Lunch - 2-3 plates of rice with some red lentils blended in,
chickpeas on top with tomato sauce and sallad/veggies.
Sometimes I had potatoes instead with maybe broccoli, quinoa
blended with veggies. Sometimes fruit but I did not mix the
grains with fruits, only grains with veggies.

Dinner - Usually more fruit, maybe watermelon, peaches,
figs, mangoe, bananas, dates, maybe nuts occationally,
sometimes spelt bread with sallad and veggies.

I avoided coffee, which I had been drinking usually 2 cups a
day before, I avoided alcohol which I only used to consume
occationally before (maybe once every 2-3 months). I also
avoided any forms of drugs and cigarettes which I don't have
any habit of using in any case.
I was not on any type of medication, last time I had any
type of medication was over 2 years ago when I was on
sertralin (antidepressant) for only 2 weeks.

I'm thinking since I'm living in the north, and I've been
having meat and saturated fat in my diet for so long my body
is not able to adapt to being vegan.

I would like to hear your take on this Doug.

I mostly went vegan because I had become convinced in that
we humans look alot like herbivores and ethical reasons. I
also thought it makes sense this would be healthy also but
my body seems to disagree.

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