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From: Harley (
Subject:         Similar thread on a paleo forum
Date: May 31, 2013 at 6:08 am PST

In Reply to: B12 187, MMA 1160 posted by Dee on May 30, 2013 at 6:12 pm:

If you want examples of noticeable cognitive and mood symptoms
just go ride your bike to work and see how the majority of car drivers
don't see you/abuse you lol!

I stopped to help a cyclist that got hit by a car in @ start of April. I
ended up getting punched in the head a few times by 2 steroid heads
that tried to flee the scene of the accident without leaving their
details. Their rage was immense but also their lack of punching
accuracy meant I could deflect most of the punches despite being
punched at the same time by 2 men of my height. They couldnt even
knock me to the ground before the fight was broken up as it
occurred on a main street @ approx 5:30pm.

So perhaps my attackers needed me to give them some b12 shots? ;)

There is a similar thread on this paleo forum.

Ironically this Paleo guru often finds his paleo eaters are b12
deficient and recommends b12 supplementation to be on the safe

Mark Sission is a strong anti vegan yet another snake oil seller. He
sells whey protein and b12 supps. Robb Wolfe, best selling paleo
author admitted he was also b12 deficient despite years on his paleo

B12 deficiency is pretty common. A good friend of mine doing the
raw primal diet since 2001 now receives b12 shots from me time to
time. His b12 was too low for his liking. Ive seen him eat dried liver
and kidneys he left on this shop roof in the sun. His organic shop is
next door to a pharmacy. 5$ a shot and 50c for the syringe. Saves the
80$ doctors bill JUST TO TAKE A VITAMIN. Intramuscular into the
shoulder. Ive given out over 100 shots with the only reported
negative, being someone who passed out from fear of needles. He
was ok 10 mins later after laying down.

You got ripped off with the b12 patches. They are a gimmick. A raise
of 300 points is often just natural variation in b12 serum levels. A
raise of 30 means nothing when you look at the ranges of variation
from low to high. I had no b12 def symptoms. I just started self
administering shots. 1000mcg from the local pharmacy. I did once a
week for a month then once a month for about 6 months. I didnt
notice any improvement but on paper my serum went from hovering
around 80-250 to hovering around 800-1450.

Some people say Freelee's dramatic weight loss was from me giving
her monthly 1000mcg b12 shots just like the weight loss clinics do in
Hollywood. I disagree with that but do agree it is used a lot in the
weight loss industry to help people better metabolize fat, protein and

Like Doug says 'if you do em and feel better, you needed em, if you
don't you didnt'.

Find out and let us know how you go. Its not like your going to Tree
of Life to get a Bovine Adrenaline/Sheep DNA shot from Gabriel
Cousens and will end up dying. Literally!

Its just a vitamin.

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