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From: heidi jane (
Subject:         false prophets, gurus, and followers
Date: March 23, 2013 at 9:41 pm PST

after attending a few 811rv style retreats it saddenned surprised and shocked me to discover lotsa leaders as well as those saying they were following 811rv were really not and didn't care to so wondered then why come to the retreat in first place and it made it uncomfortable to be around those with that attitude/demeanor of not wanting, not liking it at all. wanted to come out and say to them why are you here if you feel that way and did to one and they looked at me like i was the fool and said that it is good/ok to eat some fruits and greens but weird and impossible and not practical to eat every meal every day and every month year after year like that and that i was a fool to believe it was good and healthy and others were really in truly doing it also and then just now i hear that fred patenaude is soon to be having a book out on similar of not being all perfect 100% as well as that he really never wasn't and that only the very sickly go 100% as they have no other choice as it is what keeps them ticking in a healthy way, so whats up with all this now???

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