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From:	Carl Andrews (76.185.11.50)
Subject:	Liv, in case you didn't see this...
Date:	April 8, 2012 at 7:29 am PST

From: Carl Andrews (76.185.11.50)
Subject: Re: i read this. unbelievable.
Date: April 8, 2012 at 5:36 am PST

In Reply to: Re: i read this. unbelievable. posted by Liv on March 30, 2012 at 10:56 pm:

"Are you in denial of what is posted on Veronica's blog?"

No. Her blog diverts attention from the issues Eva raised to unfounded ad hominem slurs against Eva, such as jealousy and nastiness. Even murderous, lol. (Note how I've given three examples.)

"The fact is, Eva was incredibly rude and judgmental in regards to Veronica and her husband Fred."

I've asked you to provide evidence of such and you've yet to do so. In the post about Fred, Eva doesn't even say she disagrees with him, though she does disagree, lol.

"It's amazing that you can read Veronica's blog post and come to any other conclusion!"

Why? All Eva did for the most part was paraphrase and quote the Patenaudes themselves, lol. If it was judgmental it's only because the Patenaud's words and actions speak for themselves, lol. Were they insulted by their own words?

"Amazing, as you seem like an otherwise rather intelligent fellow. :)"

Thank you, but I'm actually insulted by that, lol.

"I think Eva is afraid of her own emotions and feelings and of giving her own opinion."

As someone who spends every possible minute with her, I can say I've seen evidence solely of the opposite, a trait that has pleased me immensely in every case, moreover. I didn't think it possible but you're more mistaken here than you are about Veronica's blog, lol.

"She sticks to "the facts" as she perceives them to feel safe."

She sticks to the facts - because she's a well educated grown up, lol.

"I think Eva is a good person, but unnecessarily jealous as others have pointed out... Perhaps insecure is more like it."

The others and you have no idea what you're talking about. In actuality, Eva has to be the least jealous, most secure person humanly possible, I think. And unlike yours, mine is an informed opinion on this. You sound like children met with criticism you have no answer for. "You're just jealous," is the stock reply of infants.

"Well everyone is insecure."

Please speak for yourself, lol.

"I think you are a little uppity and that you look down your nose too much at others, Eva."

Again, utterly unfounded ad hominem. What evidence do you have? None.

"I think the Andrews fellow is a nice guy and is being sensible and loyal, which I respect."

Thanks, but what I'm being is objective. Or rather, I'm supporting my opinion with fact. Are you taking notes on how to do that? lol.

"- I think Veronia was extremely hurt about something Eva has said."

No, Veronica was extremely embarrassed and/or humiliated by what she and Fred had done and said themselves, apparently, since that is essentially all that Eva presented her with - hers and Fred's own actions and words.

Note too that I say this without the least anger or malice. I know it's a big, complex, grown up concept, but true...

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