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From: VegMom (
Subject:         china study and animal parts
Date: December 14, 2005 at 7:49 am PST

In Reply to: Re: perfect timing! posted by Mark Rifkin on December 14, 2005 at 12:28 am:

It's true that studies show that veg's only live a tad bit longer than others, and probably need to be more careful about certain components of their diets to optimize their health and longevity.

If I’m recalling correctly, a lot of studies include ovo-lacto’s-- who could be eating cheese omelets and fried potatoes for breakfast, high fat soy burgers for lunch and cheese pizzas for dinner, with very few fresh fruits and vegetables, nothing raw and none of the “superfoods” like dark leafy greens. Also someone that drinks Coke and eats only potato chips is a vegan and would be included in a study of vegans vs meat eaters.

I think there is solid data that shows a much, much better quality of life for health minded vegans, during whatever years of life, which is significant.

Campbell is well aware of the dangers of the “cabbage and alcoholism” type of studies that you mentioned and demonstrates that weakness in so many past publications-like the ongoing Nurses study. Researchers have focused so much on low fat/high fat and ignored the high amounts of animal protein that all of the nurses ate- higher on average than the most Americans.

I am really impressed with his laboratory findings about protein in addition to his rigorous epi studies. Like how cancer cells are initiated and promoted when cells are provided with protein at higher percentages (above 5-10%) regardless of the amount of exposure to a known carcinogen. Cancer cells "fed" only plant protein did not respond to increasing exposure to the carcinogen.

He believes that casein is the most carcinogenic substance- which could explain why so many ovo-lacto’s and meat eaters don’t reap all the health benefits of going with low fat and high exercise.

But moving on, how many classes did you have to take that required you to handle animal body parts? I could see having to do nutritional analyses of omni meal plans on paper, but were these cooking exercises or biochemical tests on animal foods or both?

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