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From: Jeff Novick, MS, RD, LD, LN (
Subject:         Re: Thank You Jeff, Just a Couple More ???s
Date: December 27, 2008 at 2:52 pm PST

In Reply to: Thank You Jeff, Just a Couple More ???s posted by Nick on December 27, 2008 at 2:05 pm:

>>>O man now i'm confused about nat hygiene....I was under the impression it had something to do with the original "raw" movement...

There is "historical" hygiene and "hysterical" hygiene.

Historical hygiene is the actual history of natural hygiene which is well documented and recorded in many books and websites.

"Hysterical" hygiene is where some people make claims and act as guru's about what natural hygiene is/was and claim to be the only true teachers of hygiene, mostly based on some idealistic philisophy of belief of the individual making the claims.

"In the beginning.... :)

...hygiene was neither vegan nor was it raw. Read the works of Dr Jennings, Sylvester Graham, Dr Trall, Dr Tilden and of course, Dr Shelton.

>>>Isn't fruit more nutrient dense per calorie than starches?

No. But, do not beleive me, use the CR-ON meter.

>>Is protein the limiting nutrient of fruits?

No. But, again, do not beleive me, use the CR-ON meter.

>>>Do you have a recommendation of appropriate levels of fruit consumption % of total calories?

Do, the experiment I recommended above. There are many ways to peel a potato. :)

>>What is your opinion of vegetable

I do not recommend juicing in general. It is not required or necessary for optimal health. Juice is a highly refined highly processed food product even if you make it fresh yourself. I think we should eat food in as close to their natural state as possible. We need to chew foods and we need the fiber.

>>>I'm going to take your advice and start using the cron-o-meter and see how I'm doing....if it turns out I'm well below certain nutrients, would you recommend supplements until I'm able to bring my diet up to speed?

No, but I would recommend making the appropriate changes to your diet as soon as you can. Supplements can't fix a bad diet. The only real remedy is to make the proper adjustments in the food you eat.

>> Thanks! I really appreciate your help!

Your welcome.

Don't be fooled by guru's and philosophies. The numbers don't lie. Do the experiment. Look for the evidence.

My assumption is that you are doing this for good health and long life. Then you have to ask yourself, who has the best health and the longest life and see what they do and also see what the common denominators of the healthiest longest lived people are. This will give you many clues to what you might want to consider doing and clues to what is important and what isn't. None of these long lived healthy populations eat a mainly raw diet, a vegan diet or a mostly fruit diet. Yet, they make it to 100 in great health and many make it over 110. How many raw fooders, vegans and/or fruitarians are doing better than that?

Wishing you the best.

In Health

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