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From: TSS ()
Date: July 20, 2005 at 12:19 pm PST


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathies Advisory Committee; [FR
Doc. 04-21282 Filed 9-21-04; 8:45 am] (TSS SUB. short version 10/4/04)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:13:58 -0500
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."

Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathies Advisory Committee;
[FR Doc. 04-21282 Filed 9-21-04; 8:45 am] (TSS SUB. short version 10/4/04)

Greetings Dr. Freas, Dr. Langford, Dr. Smallwood and all FDA,

I WISH to make the following submission and comments about all
topics of this meeting about human/animal TSEs. My comments and
submissions as follows please;

>>USDA-licensed tests for the diagnosis of bovine
>>spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) and other transmissible spongiform
>>encephalopathies (TSE),

IN the past all we have heard is the fact that the present BSEs test
do not guarantee public health safety. I request that the USA implement a
BSE/TSE test that DOES guarantee public health safety, one approved for
protection, a test for live cattle, one that would detect all TSEs in the
bovine, one that would detect sub clinical TSEs; EFSA Scientific Report
on the Design of a Field Trial Protocol for the Evaluation of BSE Tests for
Live Cattle Publication date: 17 September 2004 Adopted on 1 July 2004
(Question N° EFSA-Q-2003-084) * 146 kB Report

>> review of the worldwide BSE situation,

THE most disturbing factor of this topic are the new atypical TSEs
showing up in not only cattle, but also sheep, and no one knows yet
about how many different strains of cwdTSE in deer/elk. WITH evidence of
sporadic CJD being very similar to these atypical TSEs in cattle and sheep,
and the findings from Asante, Collinge et al that BSE prions propagate
as either nvCJD or sporadic CJD, the ramifications of these findings are
very very worrisome and should not go ignored any further. WITH
the fact that there are over 20 documented strains of scrapie, and the
most logical hypothesis is scrapie to BSE, why would one believe in
only one phenotype of TSE in the bovine. IN fact, we have a new study
of two distinct prion strains derived from BSE in mice. YOU must not
continue to ignore these studies;

BSE prions propagate as either variant CJD-like or sporadic CJD-like
prion strains in transgenic mice expressing human prion protein

THE new findings of BASE in cattle in Italy of Identification of a
second bovine amyloidotic spongiform encephalopathy: Molecular
similarities with sporadic Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease

Characterization of two distinct prion strains
derived from bovine spongiform encephalopathy
transmissions to inbred mice

Adaptation of the bovine spongiform encephalopathy agent to primates
and comparison with Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease: Implications for
human health

In an experimental study of the transmissibility of BSE to the pig,
seven of 10 pigs, infected at 1-2 weeks of age by multiple-route
parenteral inoculation with a homogenate of bovine brain from
natural BSE cases developed lesions typical of spongiform

THE recent discoveries of previously unidentified strains of
Scrapie such as 221C44 and the Nor9845;


UK Strategy for Research and
Development on Human and Animal
Health Aspects of Transmissible
Spongiform Encephalopathies


WHEN in fact, the findings from Marsh and the findings at
MISSION, TEXAS support even further evidence that there
are further strains of TSE in the USA besides that one
accidentally documented BSE case in Washington on
Dec. 23, 2003;

In Confidence - Perceptions of unconventional slow virus diseases of
animals in the USA - Report of a visit to the USA - April-May 1989 - G A H
Wells [head of England's main veterinary lab]

Evidence That Transmissible Mink Encephalopathy
Results from Feeding Infected Cattle

>>labeling claims for TSE clearance studies for plasma derivative
>>The committee will then discuss and make recommendations
>>regarding presumptive transfusion transmissions of variant Creutzfeldt
>>Jakob Disease (vCJD) and current FDA-recommended safeguards.

ONE of the things i have been most worried about and will continue to
bring to the attention of the TSE advisory committee is the continued
denial of the potential of transmission of sporadic CJD via blood and
blood products. THERE are studies showing infectivity in the blood of
sporadic CJD, and just how many phenotypes there are of sporadic CJD is
anyone's guess at this point in time. WE have already documented
transmission of sporadic CJD via tissues and organs. TO continue the
BSE/nvCJD only theory will only continue to spread this agent. WE must
move away from this mentality and move on with all TSEs and treat all
TSEs as one, until proven otherwise, not the other way around. with
6,000 'DEAR nvCJD LETTERS' due to blood and blood products so far, i can
only imagine the number, once sporadic CJD is documented to have
transmitted via blood, what that number will be when those 'DEAR
SPORADIC CJD LETTERS' go out and how many will become clinical once
exposed, a frightening thought. OR, has infection by sporadic CJD
already happened, i don't think they are too sure if the 2nd
_infection_ of CJD was sporadic or variant;

Summary of SEACs discussion on the second presumed case of blood
transfusion-associated infection with vCJD

> 7. SEAC agreed that the western blot results and glycotype profile
> suggested it was unlikely that the infection was preclinical sporadic
> CJD (sCJD). The committee noted that a single study by Glatzel et al
> (2003) had reported PrPres in the spleen of sCJD clinical cases.
> However, the levels of PrPres present in sCJD cases were low and
> detected in patients with a lengthy clinical illness from sporadic CJD.

vCJD: Blood Transfusion Incident

continued .....


flatfish12-07-2004, 02:03 PM
MOST importantly, the 1968 MEDICINES ACT where it states 'NO SAF' was
blatantly ignored,
for animals and humans.

8. The Secretary of State has a number of licences. We understand that
the inactivated polio vaccine is no longer being used. There is a stock
of smallpox vaccine. We have not been able to determine the source
material. (Made in sheep very unlikely to contain bovine ingredients).

although 176 products do _not_ conform to the CSM/VPC



U.S. Imports for Consumption: December 1998 and 1998 Year-to-Date
(Customs Value, in Thousands of Dollars)
(Units of Quantity: Kilograms)

<--- Dec 1998 ---> <--- 1998 YTD --->
Country Quantity Value Quantity Value
WORLD TOTAL . . . . . . . 25,702 26,150 550,258 378,735
Austria . . . . . . . . . --- --- 45 225
Belgium . . . . . . . . . 14,311 12,029 248,041 199,036
Canada . . . . . . . . . 1,109 1,527 15,798 16,305
Denmark . . . . . . . . . 80 234 246 682
Federal Rep. of Germany 1,064 4,073 12,001 6,329
France . . . . . . . . . 3,902 4,859 87,879 92,845
Ireland . . . . . . . . . --- --- 120 478
Italy . . . . . . . . . . --- --- 2,359 81
Japan . . . . . . . . . . 445 1,903 11,350 11,298
Netherlands . . . . . . . --- --- 94 6
Republic Of South Africa --- --- 2 1
Spain . . . . . . . . . . --- --- 60 30
Switzerland . . . . . . . 716 353 9,303 4,271
United Kingdom . . . . . 4,075 1,172 162,960 47,148


Transmissible encephalopathies and biopharmaceutical production.

Blood donated after vaccination with rabies vaccine derived from sheep brain
cells might transmit CJD

Blood to be screened for CJD

***Similar levels of infectivity in the blood of mice infected with
human-derived vCJD and GSS strains of transmissible spongiform

Spongiform encephalopathy transmitted experimentally from
Creutzfeldt-Jakob and familial Gerstmann-Straussler-Scheinker diseases.

Lancet 2000; 356: 955 - 956


Blood from four of 37 human beings with clinically evident sporadic CJD has
reported to transmit the disease after intracerebral inoculation into
mice, or hamsters. But each success has been questioned on technical grounds
and has not been reproducible;

Transmission of Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease from Blood and Urine Into Mice

The Lancet, November 9, 1985

Sir,--Professor Manuelidis and his colleagues (Oct 19, p896) report
transmission to animals of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) from the
buffy coat from two patients. We also transmitted the disease from
whole blood samples of a patient (and of mice) infected with CJD.1
Brain, Cornea, and urine from this patient were also infectious, and
the clinicopathological findings2 are summarised as follows.


Department of Neuropathology,
Neurological Institute,
Faculty of Medicine,
Kyushu University,
Fukuoka812, Japan


This observation represents the first documented transmission of BSE
from the blood of an experimentally infected primate...

Transmission of prion diseases by blood transfusion

Nora Hunter,1 James Foster,1 Angela Chong,1 Sandra McCutcheon,2 David
Parnham,1 Samantha Eaton,1 Calum MacKenzie1 and Fiona Houston2

see full text;

THEN one must consider these new findings of ;

Extraneural Pathologic Prion Protein in Sporadic Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease


Conclusions Using sensitive techniques, we identified extraneural
of PrPSc in spleen and muscle samples from approximately one third of
who died with sporadic Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease. Extraneural PrPSc appears
to correlate with a long duration of disease.

Prions in skeletal muscle (Prusiner et al)

EMBO reports AOP Published online: 11 April 2003 Widespread PrPSc
accumulation in muscles of hamsters orally infected with scrapie

How much is too much? How much is not enough? What about accumulation?
What is the Threshold of exposure, to infectivity, to clinical disease?
How many strains/phenotype does sporadic CJD consist of and
What is the infectivity of each one of those phenotypes (cwdCJD)?
Until these questions are answered, you are gambling, nothing more.
I just pray that you get it right...

ALL human/animal TSEs should be made reportable Nationally and
ALL human TSE victims (family) should fill out mandatory CJD Questionnaire.

thank you,

Terry S. Singeltary Sr.
P.O. Box 42
Bacliff, Texas USA 77518

My son died of CJD on September 27, 2001, at the age of 26. He was a son to
be proud of; loving, loyal, kind, and very witty. From first symptoms to
death took only 5 months. He never traveled to Europe. He did travel to
Mexico twice and ate in local homes and village restaurants. He never had
surgery, so he would not have been exposed to iatrogenic CJD. His possible
exposure to CJD could have been through a few sources: beef, protein
supplements containing BSE-contaminated beef by-products, or deer meat
diseased with CWD (Chronic Wasting Disease).

I do not buy the standard byline that it's a one-in-a-million disease
because CJD is not reportable in many states, it is undiagnosed or
misdiagnosed as Alzheimer's or dementia. In my son's case the initial
diagnosis was epilepsy. From 5% to 13% of Alzheimer cases were actually CJD,
per studies done by the University of Pittsburgh and Yale University. The
U.S. currently has 4-5 million Alzheimer patients. Do the math on this, how
many die of Alzheimer Disease in the U.S.? Take the lowest percentage -5-
and that's how many possible cases of CJD are not recorded on the death

Our government assured us last December 23 that the Mad Cow's meat had not
entered the market for consumption. I have little regard for their assurance
considering the meat was distributed to wholesalers and retailers in six
western states. From slaughter to supermarkets and restaurants, about 580
businesses handled the meat Agriculture Department officials said. I have
read an article from the Associated Press, dated 1/8/04, from a father,
Brian Weinstein of Seattle, who purchased the diseased hamburger meat,
cooked it up for his family, and then was notified after the fact just what
he had served to his family. What kind of assurances can the government give
him now? He and his family have been exposed to a ticking time bomb. CJD can
lay dormant for up to 40 years.

I am still waiting for the latest 'non' Mad Cow to be tested by the UK or
some other facility than originally did the testing. Hide nothing and I will
be satisfied.

COOL, or Country Of Origin Labeling, would aid our nation in protecting us
from food-born diseases. But of course, "meat packers and food processors
fought the law from the start".

I don't believe that my son died of "sporadic CJD" - that it 'just
happened'. I think that he died as a result of infection by a food-born
rogue protein that produced a strain of CJD different than the human form of
Mad Cow in the UK - but just as deadly.

My son was more precious than any animal or $. I am disgusted and brought to
tears knowing that greed, the love of the $$$, is probably what decimated my
son's brain and killed my loving, vibrant, charming son.

Thank you for the opportunity through your forum to express my comments.

Mrs. Terry Schwan
Sterling Heights, MI

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