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From: TSS ()
Subject: Re: Transcript of conference with media of Johann et al on the latest BSe in USA Release No. 0233.05
Date: June 25, 2005 at 9:11 pm PST

In Reply to: Re: Transcript of conference with media of Johann et al on the latest BSe in USA Release No. 0233.05 posted by TSS on June 25, 2005 at 2:13 pm:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
To: "Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy"
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: Transcript of conference with media of Johann et al on the latest BSe in USA Release No. 0233.05

Greetings,

a few more comments please;

> "We'll also be working with Weybridge scientists on proficiency testing to
> ensure that our testing protocol and laboratory procedures remain robust
as
> they can be.

snip...

> "My second concern relates to an experimental test that was run on this
> sample back in November in addition to the standard test. A sample this
> sensitive should not be subjected to additional tests for research
purposes
> without specific protocol to guide that action.
>
> "To address the issue I have directed our scientists to again work with
> international experts to develop protocol that ensures tremendous thought
is
> given to the appropriate handling of a sample once it has generated an
> inconclusive result.
>
> "I also want to mention that the experimental test revealed abnormalities.
> Because the test was not validated and because it followed the two
approved
> IHC tests that came out negative, the results were not reported out of the
> lab. Again, appropriate protocols relating to additional testing for
> research will prevent a similar situation in the future.


snip...


> "I also want to mention that the experimental test revealed abnormalities.


Greetinga again,


WHAT a tremendous turn about of events.


WHAT experimental test are we speaking of here?


I was going over the Transcript from the OTHER INCONCLUSIVEs June 25, 2004
and June 29, 2004 ;


OPERATOR: "Michael Buchanan, please state your organization?"

QUESTION: "BBC again.

I just wanted to check, because I didn't hear the answer the last time,
whether you will be sending samples to the laboratory in England or not."

DR. CLIFFORD: "No, we would not for this purpose. This would go to our
National Veterinary Services Lab in Ames, Iowa."


http://www.usda.gov/Newsroom/0264.04.html


“At approximately 5:15 this evening, we were notified that an inconclusive
BSE test result was received on a rapid screening test used as part of our
enhanced BSE surveillance program.

“The inconclusive result does not mean we have found another case of BSE
in this country. Inconclusive results are a normal component of screening
tests, which are designed to be extremely sensitive so they will detect any
sample that could possibly be positive.

“Tissue samples are now being sent to USDA’s National Veterinary Services
Laboratories—the national BSE reference lab—which will run confirmatory
testing. Confirmatory testing is also still pending on the inconclusive test
result announced June 25.


http://www.usda.gov/Newsroom/0266.04.html


THEN on the infamous November 2004 positive, positive, (positive but not
reported until June 2005), inconclusive, negative, positive, mad cow in the
USA;


Release No. 0502.04
Contact:
Office Of Communications (202)720 4623


Printable version
Transcript of Tele-News Conference regarding BSE issues with Dr. Andrea
Morgan, Associate Deputy Administrator for Veterinary Services with the
Animal Plant Health Inspection Service and Dr. Keith Collins, USDA Chief
Economist - November 18, 2004 - Washington, D.C.

MR. JIM ROGERS: "Good morning everybody. This is Jim Rogers with the Animal
and Plant Health Inspection Services Legislative and Public Affairs Office.
Today we have with us Dr. Andrea Morgan. She is the associate deputy
administrator for our Veterinary Services Program. She will be giving a
brief statement today followed by some question and answers.

"So at this point I'm going to turn it over to Dr. Morgan."

DR. ANDREA MORGAN: "Thanks, Jim. Good morning, everybody.

"Early this morning we were notified that an inconclusive BSE test result
was received on a rapid screening test used as part of our enhanced BSE
surveillance program. The inconclusive result does not mean we have found
another case of BSE in this country. Inconclusive results are a normal
component of screening tests, which are designed to be extremely sensitive
so that they will detect any samples that could possibly be positive.

"Tissue samples are now being sent to USDA's National Veterinary Services
Laboratories, which is the national BSE reference lab which will run
confirmatory testing.

"Because this test is only an inconclusive test result, we are not
disclosing details specific to this test at this time.

"APHIS has begun internal steps to begin initial trace-backs if further
testing were to return a positive result. However, it is important to note
that this animal did not enter the food or the feed chain.

"Confirmatory results are expected back from NVSL within the next four to
seven days. And if the test comes back positive for BSE we will then be
providing additional information about the animal and its origin.

snip...

http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_1OB/.cmd/ad/.ar/sa.retriev
econtent/.c/6_2_1UH/.ce/7_2_5JM/.p/5_2_4TQ/.d/1/_th/J_2_9D/_s.7_0_A/7_0_1OB?
PC_7_2_5JM_contentid=2004%2F11%2F0502.xml&PC_7_2_5JM_navtype=RT&PC_7_2_5JM_p
arentnavid=TRANSCRIPTS_SPEECHES&PC_7_2_5JM_navid=NEWS_RELEASE#7_2_5JM


IF the USDA/APHIS et al started trace-back back on November 2004, and
positive confirmation has been made.
SO why have we not been told location where this cow was from, cohorts, feed
etc. as stated above? more blatant lies.


>>>NVSL used the immunohistochemistry (IHC) test, an
internationally-recognized gold standard test for BSE, and received a
negative result on Nov. 22. Because the Nov. 18 screening test results were
reactive in both the first and second screens, NVSL scientists made the
recommendation to run the IHC test a second time. On Nov. 23 they reported
the second IHC test was negative. Negative results from both IHC tests make
us confident that the animal in question is indeed negative for BSE.<<<

(NO mention of the SUPPRESSED 3rd positive test on this cow here. just test,
test, test, test, test until you finally
get what you want...TSS)

http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_1OB?contentidonly=true&con
tentid=2004/11/0508.xml


THAT IS if you use GWs special BSE mad cow antibody only from Ames Iowa Lab,
GWs special 'gold standard'
that guarantees BSE Free $

I must admit, GW et al at USDA/APHIS have improved somewhat on there BSE MAD
COW testing program.
AT least they have not been _caught_ rendering anymore stumbling and
staggering high risk mad cow suspects in
Texas or any other state. DOES not mean it is not happening. Nothing
surprises me anymore about BSe in the USA. ...


FDA Statement
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Statement
May 4, 2004
Media Inquiries: 301-827-6242
Consumer Inquiries: 888-INFO-FDA

Statement on Texas Cow With Central Nervous System Symptoms
On Friday, April 30 th , the Food and Drug Administration learned that a cow
with central nervous system symptoms had been killed and shipped to a
processor for rendering into animal protein for use in animal feed.

FDA, which is responsible for the safety of animal feed, immediately began
an investigation. On Friday and throughout the weekend, FDA investigators
inspected the slaughterhouse, the rendering facility, the farm where the
animal came from, and the processor that initially received the cow from the
slaughterhouse.

FDA's investigation showed that the animal in question had already been
rendered into "meat and bone meal" (a type of protein animal feed). Over the
weekend FDA was able to track down all the implicated material. That
material is being held by the firm, which is cooperating fully with FDA.

Cattle with central nervous system symptoms are of particular interest
because cattle with bovine spongiform encephalopathy or BSE, also known as
"mad cow disease," can exhibit such symptoms. In this case, there is no way
now to test for BSE. But even if the cow had BSE, FDA's animal feed rule
would prohibit the feeding of its rendered protein to other ruminant animals
(e.g., cows, goats, sheep, bison).

FDA is sending a letter to the firm summarizing its findings and informing
the firm that FDA will not object to use of this material in swine feed
only. If it is not used in swine feed, this material will be destroyed. Pigs
have been shown not to be susceptible to BSE. If the firm agrees to use the
material for swine feed only, FDA will track the material all the way
through the supply chain from the processor to the farm to ensure that the
feed is properly monitored and used only as feed for pigs.

To protect the U.S. against BSE, FDA works to keep certain mammalian protein
out of animal feed for cattle and other ruminant animals. FDA established
its animal feed rule in 1997 after the BSE epidemic in the U.K. showed that
the disease spreads by feeding infected ruminant protein to cattle.

Under the current regulation, the material from this Texas cow is not
allowed in feed for cattle or other ruminant animals. FDA's action
specifying that the material go only into swine feed means also that it will
not be fed to poultry.

FDA is committed to protecting the U.S. from BSE and collaborates closely
with the U.S. Department of Agriculture on all BSE issues. The animal feed
rule provides crucial protection against the spread of BSE, but it is only
one of several such firewalls. FDA will soon be improving the animal feed
rule, to make this strong system even stronger.

####

ooops. ...


TSS





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