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Subject: US mad cow test results may take two weeks - USDA
Date: June 12, 2005 at 4:56 am PST

US mad cow test results may take two weeks - USDA

Sat June 11, 2005 6:36 PM GMT-04:00
By Randy Fabi

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Agriculture Department may need up to two weeks to determine if a suspect older animal was infected with mad cow disease, the department's chief veterinarian told Reuters on Saturday.

John Clifford, the USDA's top veterinarian, said tests will be carried out at the USDA laboratory in Ames, Iowa, and at an internationally known facility in Weybridge, England, to determine if the animal is infected.

The USDA reported late on Friday that an animal tested positive for the brain-wasting disease, reigniting fears that foreign countries would shun U.S. beef again.

The government said the suspect animal, first tested in November, did not enter the human food or livestock feed supply because it was unable to walk when delivered for slaughter.

The only confirmed U.S. case of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), or mad cow disease, was found in December 2003 in a Washington state dairy cow. The discovery halted billions of dollars worth of American beef exports.

Clifford said USDA scientists were drawing up a detailed testing plan for the suspect animal. A decision on exactly how many tests, and what types, was expected by late next week, he said.

"We want to make sure that everybody agrees on the tests that should be done," Clifford said in an interview.

A key first step, he said, is for the USDA to conduct additional analyzes on the animal's remaining brain sample to ensure that enough tissue was still available for testing in England. Only 12.5 grams (0.4 ounces) of the animal's brain remained, he said.

Several tests ranging in sophistication can determine mad cow disease, and some require a larger amount of brain tissue.

The USDA was mulling whether to wait and make only one announcement when all the tests were complete, a process that could take up to two weeks, Clifford said.

Clifford declined to say where the animal was slaughtered or give details about its sex or breed. "We are not ready to divulge that information," he said.


The senior Democrat on the House Appropriations subcommittee on agriculture, Rep. Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut, urged the USDA to implement stronger safeguards to protect consumers and cattle from mad cow disease.

"The possibility of a second case of mad cow in America raises concerns over the integrity of our cattle," she said in a statement.

USDA spokesman Ed Loyd said department scientists were already at work.

"We are running it through again to ensure the results," Loyd said. "We want to also ensure we send samples to Weybridge that are adequate enough for them to conduct appropriate testing that allows for a valid result."

Washington has informed all of its agricultural attaches with U.S. embassies around the world about the suspect animal.

"Certainly an important part of what we do over the next few days will be to keep all of our trading partners informed of our progress," Loyd said.

Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns, who announced the possible mad cow disease on Friday evening, said the incident should not impact U.S. beef trade. Since becoming chief of the USDA earlier this year, Johanns has repeatedly said that his top priority is to restore American beef export trade.

USDA officials have been pressing for resumed purchases of American beef by Japan and South Korea, which suspended purchases in December 2003.

Before its ban, Japan was the No. 1 beef market for the United States, buying $1.4 billion annually. South Korea was its third-largest market.

The Japanese government agreed in principle in October to resume beef imports from American cattle aged 20 months or younger, but insisted shipments would not resume until its independent commission declared U.S. beef was safe to eat.

Current negotiations with South Korea center on beef from animals under 30 months.

The USDA said the suspect animal's brain tested positive for BSE in a rapid, preliminary test in November. When immediately retested with more sophisticated technology, it was found free of the disease.

But the USDA's inspector general asked scientists on Wednesday to retest the animal using a third kind of technology known as the "Western blot" test. The animal tested positive late on Friday.

The Western blot test was requested by a consumer group in February, which said it was the most definitive test available.;:42ac06e3:7561885da5ab7671?type=topNews&localeKey=en_CA&storyID=8763427

JOHANNs should be put out to pasture with the rest of the
ones that helped cover this up. JOHANNs should step down.
THIS was criminal, along with the Canadian beef
that was o.k.'d to be illegally imported into the USA,
and along with the stumbling and staggering TEXAS cow
that was never tested at all. THIS is a blatant cover up
of industrial proportions, and I am not to sure to trust them
on the other inconclusives, even if they did claim there
were WB used on them. I would like to see all three inconclusives
retested at Weybridge. ...

> US mad cow test results may take two weeks - USDA

AFTER waiting some 6 months for a confirmation, after being lied too,
whats two more weeks.

SEC. JOHANNS states;

"And as you know, now nearly a year ago or maybe even more than a
year ago we started a very aggressive surveillance system. During that
surveillance process we have had three inconclusives on rapid tests.
It's a rapid test that is done, and there were three inconclusives.
Each was then followed up with an IHC test. Each confirmatory IHC test
was negative.The Inspector General, in reviewing our surveillance
system that we have in place, decided to retest with a second
confirmatory test which is called the Western Blot. We have received
test results showing a positive on one animal for the Western Blot."...

[translation: we have had three positives on rapid BioRad tests. It's
the thoroughly reliable BoRad test that is done, and there were three
positives. Don't you just hate it when that happens?!? Well, we do too,
so we let sample deteroriate as much as we dared and sent it to our
captive lab in Iowa with their irreproducible IHC test and sure enough,
since the guys were close to retirement, we could get them to say all 3
were negative. Thge Inspector General, knowing full well how we cheat
on the tests, forced us after a huge fight to send out the sample for
a $25 Western Blot test which of course confirmed the BioRad and showed
once again the IHC to be fool's gold standard. And to follow up on our
late friday night news release, we're sending a sample, _possibly_ from
the same cow, to the UK for further delays. It all just goes to show
the SYSTEM WORKED. and before i head out to enjoy a greasy steak and
ballpark franks with my kids, let me just say thanks to all the great
meat producers out there.]


It's delicious

In an attempt to allay fears, Agriculture Minister John Gummer poses with
his daughter and a pair of well-placed burgers. Note the extra hand helping
Cordelia hold hers.

The main burden of placating the public fell on the shoulders of Agriculture
Minister John Gummer, who entered the fray with the enthusiasm of one
of beef's true believers. Gummer's personal intervention was credited for
putting beef back on the menu in Westminster schools and for preventing other
member nations in the European Union from banning British beef altogether.
When appeals to science and common sense were insufficient to soothe fears,
Gummer turned to personal testimonials. “My wife eats beef, my children eat
beef, and I eat beef,” he said. “That is everyone's absolute protection.” For
proof of this “absolute protection,” he arranged a publicity stunt with Cordelia,
his youngest daughter, posing with her and a pair of hamburgers. At least, that
was the way the day was supposed to go. Once they got in front of cameras,
Cordelia decided she didn't want a burger that day and refused to eat. Gummer
improvised by taking a bite out of her burger himself and posing it in front of
her face as TV cameras rolled. “It's delicious,” he said. It was a photo opportunity
that would come back to haunt him in subsequent years, becoming a
symbol of the government's shameless eagerness to flack for beef despite
mounting evidence of human danger.

see Gummer force feed his daughter hamburger;

Wednesday, 11 October, 2000, 16:19 GMT 17:19 UK

John Gummer: Beef eater

1990: John Gummer with Cordelia munching burgers for the press

Probably the most derided politician to emerge out of the BSE scandal, John Gummer will always be remembered for making great public show of feeding his four-year-old daughter Cordelia a hamburger in the midst of the "mad cow" disease scare.
The press photographed Mr Gummer - then Agriculture Minister in the Conservative government - tucking into the burger with his little girl at a boat show in Suffolk on May 6 1990.

Just six days before, it had emerged a cat had died of a BSE-like disease and six months earlier the government itself had banned beef offal for human consumption.

Eight years passed - and 32 people had died of CJD, the human form of BSE - before Mr Gummer was obliged to justify his action to the public inquiry on BSE.

'Perfectly safe'

In December last year, he told the panel he had no regrets about his strenuous efforts to appease public fears with blanket statements that beef was "perfectly safe".

The ex-minister says he now eats more beef than ever

Families of CJD victims accused him and the government of whitewash. But Mr Gummer, a committed Christian and son of a well-known Church of England clergyman, insisted he always acted in the best interest of the consumer - using his own family as a benchmark.

"Adults, about themselves, may take a certain kind of risk," said the father of four. "They smoke and of all sorts of things. The only fair question, I think, before I made a comment to the public was that I thought this was safe for my children to eat."

Delayed ban on offal

He also told the inquiry he had delayed a ban on beef offal in 1989 because he did not believe it was "essential for public health" because the Southwood report on the issue had only suggested a ban.

At the end of the hearing, the panel asked him if the BSE crisis had changed his eating habits. He told them that if anything he ate more beef because it was cheaper that it used to be.

Down but not out

The burger episode turned him into a figure of fun and led to a lasting public mistrust of government pronouncement on food scares - notably Tony Blair's reassurances on genetically-modified food.

Yet Mr Gummer's political career remained unscathed.

The MP for Suffolk Coastal remained Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Food until 1993 when he was made Secretary of State for the Environment until Labour took power in 1997.

Now on the backbenches, he is regarded as one of the "greenest" Conservatives with strong views on on global warming and town planning.

THEN WE HAVE Prime Minister Jean Chretien of Canada with the same lies;

Prime Minister Jean Chretien shows that Canadian beef is safe by having it for lunch at a Ottawa restaurant Wednesday.

Photo: Dave Chan/ CP

AND THEN YOU HAVE GW and his humour;

Canadian beef

"I proudly ate some Alberta beef last night and I'm still standing," Bush joked at his final public appearance in Halifax. Still, after the visit, the American border remained closed to Canadian beef as it has since May 2003, after a cow in Alberta tested positive for mad cow disease.

COMMODITIES AND FUTURES, to hell with human health.

NOT enough body bags. IT is what you call an acceptable death rate.

WITH _documented_ (key word is documented) death this low, it is an acceptable death rate for a particular commodity.

THE sad part is they are not using all the science. only a small portion of it. only the portion that fits there needs $$$

THE nvCJD/BSE only theory is total crap (BSeee) and everyone knows it...


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