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From: TSS (216-119-144-34.ipset24.wt.net)
Subject: RESPONSIBILITIES RELATED TO FOREIGN ANIMAL DISEASES (FADs) AND REPORTABLE CONDITIONS
Date: January 27, 2005 at 2:37 pm PST

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RESPONSIBILITIES RELATED TO FOREIGN ANIMAL DISEASES (FADs) AND REPORTABLE CONDITIONS
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:41:15 -0600
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
Reply-To: Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy
To: BSE-L@LISTSERV.KALIV.UNI-KARLSRUHE.DE


##################### Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy #####################

UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE
FOOD SAFETY AND INSPECTION SERVICE
FSIS DIRECTIVE 6000.1 1/26/2005
WASHINGTON, DC

RESPONSIBILITIES RELATED TO FOREIGN ANIMAL DISEASES (FADs) AND
REPORTABLE CONDITIONS

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OPPDE/rdad/FSISDirectives/6000.1.pdf

> Under the current OIE classification, the
> diseases of greatest concern are divided into two categories: List A
> and List B.


OH GREAT, the OIE regs worked so well around the globe on bse/tse,
i still cannot figure out why the OIE STILL dragging it's feet on CWD !

WHY is this ???

Subject: Re: CWD AMERICA ???
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:10:18 +0200
From: "INFORMATION DEPT"
Organization: O.I.E
To: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
References: <3D2F0169.3@wt.net> <012901c229b2$ad43bb90$7f00000a@HPKB>
<3D2F2358.5010700@wt.net>

I agree with you Dr Terry. The OIE, namely the International Animal
Health Code Commission is working on making proposals to Member
Countries to change the OIE lists so to avoid some the problems
mentioned in you e-mail. This will take at least two years before
adoption by the International Committee. For BSE, countries asked the
OIE to post information on BSE on the OIE web site.

Personally, I am interested in Chronic Wasting Disease and I follow what
is distributed through ProMed. Delegates of OIE Member Countries can
propose diseases to be added to the list.

Kind regards.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
To: "INFORMATION DEPT"
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: CWD AMERICA ???


> hello Dr.
>
> many thanks for your swift and kind reply.
>
> if i am not mistaken, it was the same email address.
> it was 3 or 4 weeks ago i wrote, as it is, i don't
> save 'sent' emails anymore, unless very important.
>
> my main concern (besides the fact that a potential TSE
> has been in the USA cattle for some time, but the APHIS
> do not test to find), is that the CWD could very well be
> transmitting to humans, and i just did not see to much
> posted about it on OIE site.
>
> > Coming back to your question, Chronic Wasting Disease is not an OIE
>
> > listed disease. Please see OIE disease lists at
>
> http://www.oie.int/eng/maladies/en_classification.htm#ListeA).
>
> why is this TSE (CWD) not listed and followed as with BSE ?
>
> Article 1.1.3.2.
> 1. Countries shall make available to other countries, through the
> OIE, whatever information is necessary to minimise the spread of
> important animal diseases and to assist in achieving better worldwide
> control of these diseases.
>
> http://www.oie.int/eng/normes/MCode/A_00005.htm
>
> The USA CWD is an important animal disease.
>
> why is it not followed?
>
> > The decision to add or delete a disease from the OIE lists, come
>
> > through proposals made by Member Countries and it has to be adopted by
>
> > the International Committee.
>
> i _urgently_ suggest a proposal to the OIE to follow this disease very
> closely, and to propose _more_ testing in the USA for TSEs in the USA
> cattle...
>
> kindest regards,
> terry
>
> INFORMATION DEPT wrote:
>
> > Dear Sir,
> >
> > This is the first time that I receive your e-mail. To whom have you
written
> > in the OIE or to which address?
> >
> > Coming back to your question, Chronic Wasting Disease is not an OIE
listed
> > disease. Please see OIE disease lists at
> > http://www.oie.int/eng/maladies/en_classification.htm#ListeA).
> >
> > Countries should report to the OIE any disease even is not listed
in the
> > OIE's lists in some conditions (example: an exceptional
epidemiological
> > event). Please read Chapter 1.1.3 of the International animal health
code to
> > have more information on disease notification and epidemiological
> > information agreed by OIE Member Countries at :
> > http://www.oie.int/eng/normes/MCode/A_00005.htm
> >
> > The decision to add or delete a disease from the OIE lists, come
through
> > proposals made by Member Countries and it has to be adopted by the
> > International Committee.
> >
> > Hope that I answered to your question.
> >
> > Best regards.
> >

> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 6:18 PM
> > Subject: CWD AMERICA ???
> >
> >
> >
> >>I WROTE TO OIE RECENTLY ASKING 'WHY OIE DOES NOT FOLLOW CWD IN
> >>AMERICA' ? with no reply ? i am still seeking an answer ?
> >>
> >>many thanks,
> >>and kind regards,
> >>terry
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snip...

PAGE 25 Transmission Studies Mule deer transmissions of CWD were by
intracerebral inoculation and compared with natural cases resulted in a
more rapidly progressive clinical disease with repeated episodes of
synocopy ending in coma. One control animal became affected, it is
believed through contamination of inoculam (?saline). Further CWD
transmissions were carried out by Dick Marsh into ferret, mink and
squirrel monkey. Transmission occurred in _all_ of these species with
the shortest incubation period in the ferret...

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11b/tab01.pdf

Clearly, it is premature to draw firm conclusions about CWD
passing naturally into humans, cattle and sheep, but the present
results suggest that CWD transmissions to humans would be as
limited by PrP incompatibility as transmissions of BSE or sheep
scrapie to humans. Although there is no evidence that sheep
scrapie has affected humans, it is likely that BSE has caused variant
CJD in 74 people (definite and probable variant CJD cases to
date according to the UK CJD Surveillance Unit). Given the
presumably large number of people exposed to BSE infectivity,
the susceptibility of humans may still be very low compared with
cattle, which would be consistent with the relatively inefficient
conversion of human PrP-sen by PrPBSE. Nonetheless, since
humans have apparently been infected by BSE, it would seem prudent
to take reasonable measures to limit exposure of humans
(as well as sheep and cattle) to CWD infectivity as has been
recommended for other animal TSEs.

snip...

http://www.emboj.org/current.shtml

and why do we not want to do TSE transmission studies on chimpanzees $

snip...

5. A positive result from a chimpanzee challenged severly would likely
create alarm in some circles even if the result could not be interpreted
for man. I have a view that all these agents could be transmitted provided
a large enough dose by appropriate routes was given and the animals kept
long enough. Until the mechanisms of the species barrier are more clearly
understood it might be best to retain that hypothesis.

snip...

R. BRADLEY

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/yb/1990/09/23001001.pdf

> 5. A positive result from a chimpanzee challenged severly would likely
> create alarm in some circles even if the result could not be interpreted
> for man.


ARE YOU KIDDING, NOT IN THE USA, WE HAVE A BSE/TSE SPIN ZONE
that most media follow from the Gov/industry et al.

THEN we get the proof (well old proof made new again), and the spin
machine goes into action;

> Risk of oral infection with bovine spongiform encephalopathy agent in
> primates

> LOOKS like a 1 in 2 chance to develop BSE by the oral route to me,
> but somehow the media and the industry/GOV. will spin this into
> no risk...
>
> TSS


> AMERICAN MEAT INSTITUTE FOUNDATION SAYS LANCET STUDY SUPPORTS EFFICACY
> OF EXISTING BSE FIREWALLS TO PROTECT HUMAN HEALTH
>
> (Attribute Statement to AMI Foundation President James H. Hodges)


FAR cry from what happened in Europe.

BUT, what was it the USA said in the 80s;

Gerald Wells: Report of the Visit to USA, April-May 1989

snip...

The general opinion of those present was that BSE, as an
overt disease phenomenon, _could exist in the USA, but if it did,
it was very rare. The need for improved and specific surveillance
methods to detect it as recognised...

snip...

It is clear that USDA have little information and _no_ regulatory
responsibility for rendering plants in the US...

snip...

3. Prof. A. Robertson gave a brief account of BSE. The US approach
was to accord it a _very low profile indeed_. Dr. A Thiermann showed
the picture in the ''Independent'' with cattle being incinerated and thought
this was a fanatical incident to be _avoided_ in the US _at all costs_...

snip...

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11b/tab01.pdf


simply amazing. they could spin a mountain of cow manure into a pot of gold.

they did that with all the cattle by-products and look what a fine mess
we find
ourselves in, but yet they continue to spin $$$ and humans will continue
to die...

TSS

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