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From: TSS (
Subject: Re: "EFSA publishes new report on the Geographical BSE Risk Assessment" (GAIN report E34050)
Date: September 1, 2004 at 11:14 am PST

In Reply to: "EFSA publishes new report on the Geographical BSE Risk Assessment" (GAIN report E34050) posted by TSS on August 31, 2004 at 9:43 am:

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Subject: Re: "EFSA publishes new report on the Geographical BSE Risk Assessment" (GAIN report E34050)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 11:47:15 -0500
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
Reply-To: Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy
References: <>

######## Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy #########

Proposed Rulemaking
to Establish Criteria for
the Importation of
Designated Ruminants
and Ruminant Products
From Canada into the
United States

Revised Environmental
Assessment, March 2004


2 An organization that establishes international standards to facilitate
trade for countries
that are signatories to international trade agreements, while minimizing
the risk of
introducing diseases.
B. Proposed action
The proposed rulemaking would allow for the importation of certain live
ruminants and ruminant products and by-products, provided the requesting
country seeking recognition as a minimal risk region demonstrates that it
meets certain factors similar to the criteria recommended by the Office
International des Epizooties (OIE).2 This action would continue to protect
against the further introduction and spread of BSE in the United States
while removing unnecessary prohibitions on certain low-risk commodities
from these regions. The factors that APHIS would have to address,
through an evaluation, include whether the region has complied with the
(1) Maintains and, in the case of regions where BSE was detected, had in
place prior to the detection of BSE, risk mitigation measures adequate
to prevent widespread exposure and/or establishment of the disease.
Such measures include the following:
(a) Restrictions on the importation of animals sufficient to minimize
the possibility of infected ruminants being imported into the
region, and on the importation of animal products and animal
feed containing ruminant protein sufficient to minimize the
possibility of ruminants in the region being exposed to BSE;
(b) Surveillance for BSE at levels that meet or exceed OIE
recommendations for surveillance for BSE; and
(c) A ban on the feeding of ruminant protein to ruminants that
appears to be an effective barrier to the dissemination of the BSE
infectious agent, with no evidence of significant noncompliance
with the ban.
(2) In regions where BSE is detected, an epidemiological investigation is
conducted sufficient to confirm the adequacy of measures to prevent
the further introduction or spread of BSE, and such measures are
continued; and
(3) In regions where BSE is detected, additional risk mitigation measures
are taken as necessary, following the BSE outbreak, and such
measures are continued.
CFIA has requested the United States to recognize Canada as a minimal
risk BSE region, thus allowing imports of certain live ruminants and
ruminant products and by-products into the United States. For the list of
low-risk products and specific risk-reduction strategies associated with
CFIA’s request, refer to the risk assessment, “Risk Analysis: BSE Risk
from Importation of Designated Ruminants and Ruminant Products from
Canada into the United States,”(hereby incorporated by reference)
prepared by APHIS in October 2003.


From: Terry S. Singeltary Sr. []
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:03 PM
Cc:;; BSE-L
Subject: Docket No. 2003N-0312 Animal Feed Safety System [TSS SUBMISSION
TO DOCKET 2003N-0312]

Greetings FDA,


PLUS, if the USA continues to flagrantly ignore the _documented_ science
to date about the known TSEs in the USA (let alone the undocumented TSEs
in cattle), it is my opinion, every other Country that is dealing with
BSE/TSE should boycott the USA and demand that the SSC reclassify the
USA BSE GBR II risk assessment to BSE/TSE GBR III 'IMMEDIATELY'. for the
SSC to _flounder_ any longer on this issue, should also be regarded with
great suspicion as well. NOT to leave out the OIE and it's terribly
flawed system of disease surveillance. the OIE should make a move on CWD
in the USA, and make a risk assessment on this as a threat to human
health. the OIE should also change the mathematical formula for testing
of disease. this (in my opinion and others) is terribly flawed as well.
to think that a sample survey of 400 or so cattle in a population of 100
million, to think this will find anything, especially after seeing how
many TSE tests it took Italy and other Countries to find 1 case of BSE
(1 million rapid TSE test in less than 2 years, to find 102 BSE cases),
should be proof enough to make drastic changes of this system. the OIE
criteria for BSE Country classification and it's interpretation is very
problematic. a text that is suppose to give guidelines, but is not
understandable, cannot be considered satisfactory. the OIE told me 2
years ago that they were concerned with CWD, but said any changes might
take years. well, two years have come and gone, and no change in
relations with CWD as a human health risk. if we wait for politics and
science to finally make this connection, we very well may die before any
or changes are made. this is not acceptable. we must take the politics
and the industry out of any final decisions of the Scientific community.
this has been the problem from day one with this environmental man made
death sentence. some of you may think i am exaggerating, but you only
have to see it once, you only have to watch a loved one die from this
one time, and you will never forget, OR forgive...yes, i am still very
angry... but the transmission studies DO NOT lie, only the politicians
and the industry do... and they are still lying to this day...TSS

HERE we find that the USDA et al are still willing to risk public health
to the BSE/TSE agent;

> 1
> Finally, we would like the OIE to consider adding blood, blood
> by-products (dried beef
> powder, extracts, etc.) and products derived from beef blood to be on
> this list of
> commodities that can be safely traded. We have found no scientific
> data showing blood
> is a risk for BSE. While the prion can be found in the blood,
> scientific evidence points to
> the extremely low quantities of the agent in blood.


Comments from the United States on the OIE’s proposed changes to
the Code Chapter on Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy
December 2003 Report of the Terrestrial Animal Health Standards
Comments Submitted March 12, 2004

THAT bought and paid for by the industry Harvard risk ass. on BSE
in the USA will be one of there biggest downfalls;


BSE has not been detected in the United States. The recently released
risk assessment on BSE, conducted by Harvard University’s School of
Public Health under contract with USDA, finds that actions the U.S.
government has already taken have resulted in a high resistance to the
introduction and spread of BSE in the United States. However, additional
measures may be warranted to ensure the safety of the nation’s food supply.

The current thinking paper outlines additional possible regulatory
actions FSIS may take to limit the risk of human exposure to BSE. The
paper includes the following options: prohibiting the use of brain and
spinal cord from specified cattle in human food; prohibiting the use of
central nervous system tissues in boneless beef products, including meat
from Advanced Meat Recovery systems; and prohibiting the use of the
vertebral column from certain categories of cattle, including downed
animals, in the production of meat from AMR systems. FSIS requests
public comment on the options discussed in this paper, as well as the
Harvard University risk assessment

This notice will publish in the Federal Register on Jan. 17. Written
comments should be submitted to the FSIS Docket Clerk, FSIS Docket Room,
Room 102, 300 12th Street, SW, Washington, D.C. 20250-3700. Copies of
the current thinking paper
, as well as the
Harvard University risk assessment, are available on the Internet at or can be requested by mail
from the FSIS Docket Clerk.

“As you know, on May 20th, I temporarily halted imports of live
ruminants and most ruminant products from Canada due to the discovery of
a single case of BSE in Alberta.

“Since then, we have been working closely with Canada and our other
trading partners to evaluate the varied and complex issues regarding
this situation. My thanks to the many USDA employees who have traveled
frequently to Canada and other countries and worked diligently to
investigate this situation.

“We have reviewed the standards set by the International Office of
Epizootics … or the OIE, by its abbreviation, which is the
standard-setting organization for animal health for 164 member nations.

“We have reviewed the exhaustive epidemiology investigation by Canada
into the case, which found no other infected animals, and we have
carefully evaluated the additional risk-mitigation measures put in place
by Canada in response to the review of its investigation by an
independent expert panel.

“From these scientific assessments, our experts have determined that the
risk to public health is extremely low.

“Based on these determinations, we will begin immediately to accept
applications for import permits for certain low-risk ruminant-derived
products from Canada.

“Among the products that will be allowed under permit are:
· Hunter-harvested wild ruminant products intended for personal use;
· Boneless sheep or goat meat from animals under 12 months of age;
· Boneless bovine meat from cows under 30 months of age;
· Boneless veal (meat) from calves that were 36 weeks of age or younger
at slaughter;
· Fresh or frozen bovine liver;
· Vaccines for veterinary medicine for non-ruminant use; and
· Pet products and feed ingredients that contain processed animal
protein and tallow of non-ruminant sources.

“A complete list of products is posted on the APHIS website, but all
have been deemed as low risk by our scientific experts.

“I cannot stress strongly enough that the continued protection of the
U.S. food supply is our top priority and the most instrumental factor in
our decision making process.

(that's a hoot...tss)

"USDA & Harvard Announce Results of BSE Risk Assessment"

with Secretary of Agriculture Ann M.Veneman

Friday, November 30, 2001



Thank you, Secretary Veneman, and good afternoon.

“To tell you about our report, I first want to
tell you how we got started. We had a lot to learn when it comes to
BSE. We spent 3 years learning about BSE, what causes it, how it
spreads, what happened in Europe. We studied the U.S. agriculture
system to understand how it works. We looked at government regulations,
government rules, and the levels of compliance with those rules.
That led us, together with colleagues at Tuskegee University, who played
an important role in our analysis, to build a model of the real world,
as we know it today, so we could simulate what might happen if the
disease were introduced--if BSE were introduced to the United States.

“What we found is that the United States is very
resistant to BSE. As far as we know, it's not here now, but if it does
get in, it can't become established. Basically, with the measures that
are already in place, even with imperfect compliance, the disease in the
cattle herd dies out, and the potential for people to be exposed to
infected cattle parts is tiny.

“We ran dozens of scenarios and thousands of
variations of each of those with our model, and we couldn't come up with
a single situation where BSE could take hold or spread in any
significant way. In every case, the disease dies out, usually in about
20 years.

“So here's what happens if BSE does get in.


> “So here's what happens if BSE does get in.

May 13, 2004

Failure To Test Staggering Cow May Reflect Wider Problems
Rep. Waxman raises concerns that the recent failure of USDA to test an
impaired cow for BSE may not be an isolated incident, citing the failure
of USDA to monitor whether cows condemned for central nervous system
symptoms are actually tested for mad cow disease.

- Letter to USDA


Dave Louthan - Killed the Mad Cow


No mad cow results for nearly 500 cows

By Steve Mitchell
United Press International
Published 8/11/2004 11:23 AM

WASHINGTON, Aug. 11 (UPI) -- The U.S. Department of Agriculture failed
to test for mad cow disease or collect the correct portion of the brain
on nearly 500 suspect cows over the past two years -- including some in
categories considered most likely to be infected -- according to agency
records obtained by United Press International.

The testing problems mean it may never be known with certainty whether
these animals were infected with the deadly disease. Department
officials said these animals were not included in the agency's final
tally of mad cow tests, but the records, obtained by UPI under the
Freedom of Information Act, indicate at least some of them were counted...



Steve Mitchell is UPI's Medical Correspondent. E-mail
Copyright © 2001-2004 United Press International

THE reason USDA et al have only found one mad cow in some
47,543 since the inception of the ' USA enhance bse cover-up',
they are burying them...TSS


Senator Michael Machado from California

''USDA does not know what's going on''.

''USDA is protecting the industry''.

''SHOULD the state of California step in''

Stanley Prusiner

''nobody has ever ask us to comment''

''they don't want us to comment''

''they never ask''

i tried to see Venemon, after Candian cow was discovered with BSE.
went to see lyle. after talking with him... absolute ignorance... then
thought i should see Venemon... it was clear his entire policy was to
get cattle boneless beef prods across the border... nothing else
mattered... his aids confirmed this... 5 times i tried to see Venemon,
never worked... eventually met with carl rove the political... he is the
one that arranged meetingwith Venemon... just trying to give you a sense
of the distance... healh public safety... was never contacted... yes i
believe that prions are bad to eat and you can die from them...END

Dr. Stan bashing Ann Veneman - 3 minutes

Stanley Prusiner - Discoverer of Prions

i feel safer don't you;-(?

> What we should fear the most is not Mad Cows in Europe, but the
> policymaker’s response. We do not need a new hypothetical threshold
> redefining a precautionary principle for vaccines, drugs and food
> products.


Scott C. Ratzan, MD, MPA, MA
Human risk from eating beef: Risk communication gone mad

Statement by Secretary of Agriculture Ann M. Veneman Regarding The GAO
Report on BSE February 26,

IMPORTS FROM CANADA [takes a few minutes to load]

Docket No. 2003N-0312 Animal Feed Safety System [TSS SUBMISSION]

Docket Management Docket: 02N-0273 - Substances Prohibited From Use in

Animal Food or Feed; Animal Proteins Prohibited in Ruminant Feed

Comment Number: EC -10

Accepted - Volume 2



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Sr. [] Monday, January 08,200l 3:03 PM freas ...

Asante/Collinge et al, that BSE transmission to the 129-methionine

genotype can lead to an alternate phenotype that is indistinguishable

from type 2 PrPSc, the commonest _sporadic_ CJD;


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