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From: TSS ()
Date: May 7, 2008 at 2:30 pm PST


seems the usda and the feed industry are now announcing parts of autopsy
reports that are not part of the confidentiality clause, then, not releasing
the rest of the information under that same clause, i.e. was it sporadic cjd
??? or any TSE ??? or what ??? ALL IN THE NAME OF TRADE $$$

USDA says US beef is safe Posted on: 5.4.2008 6:30:19 PM Posted by Editor

USDA undersecretary Richard Raymond said Sunday that preliminary results of
an autopsy on a young woman who died recently in Portsmouth, Virginia
"indicate the patient did not die of vCJD." Reports of her death in the
media and from Virginia's health departmenthad raised the question that her
death was caused by variant Creuztfeldt Jakob. That possibility triggered an
autopsy and an investigation because the patient had not traveled outside
the United States.

Raymond reported the preliminary results of the investigation during a
Washington press conference held to reassure the Korean press corps about
the safety of U.S. beef supply. Raymond said "the U.S. Centers for Disease
Control & Prevention has just provided us with that information, and I felt
it was important to share that with you today." The announcement came in the
context of a broader explanation of U.S. safeguards against BSE. "We have
never had a person in the United States die from eating American beef,"
Raymond told reporters.



To minimise the risk of farmers' claims for compensation from feed

To minimise the potential damage to compound feed markets through adverse

To maximise freedom of action for feed compounders, notably by maintaining
the availability of meat and bone meal as a raw material in animal feeds,
and ensuring time is available to make any changes which may be required.




MAFF remains under pressure in Brussels and is not skilled at handling
potentially explosive issues.

5. Tests _may_ show that ruminant feeds have been sold which contain illegal
traces of ruminant protein. More likely, a few positive test results will
turn up but proof that a particular feed mill knowingly supplied it to a
particular farm will be difficult if not impossible.

6. The threat remains real and it will be some years before feed compounders
are free of it. The longer we can avoid any direct linkage between feed
milling _practices_ and actual BSE cases, the more likely it is that serious
damage can be avoided. ...

SEE full text ;

By Nancy Young The Virginian-Pilot © May 6, 2008

Portsmouth woman did not die of mad cow-related condition, USDA says Posted
to: Health and Medicine News Portsmouth

By Nancy Young The Virginian-Pilot © May 6, 2008

Preliminary test results indicate that a 22-year-old Portsmouth woman who
died in April did not have an illness that has been associated with eating
contaminated beef, according to a U.S. Department of Agriculture official.

An autopsy performed on Aretha Vinson, who died April 9 at Bon Secours
Maryview Medical Center in Portsmouth, indicated that she did not die a
variant of Creutzfeldt-Jacob Disease, said Richard Raymond, USDA
undersecretary for food safety. VJCD has has been associated with mad cow
disease. He was speaking to a group of Korean and American reporters in
Washington Sunday.

“The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has just provided us
with that information, and I felt it was important to share with you today,”
Raymond told reporters on Sunday, according to the USDA’s Food Safety and
Inspection Service Web site.

Vinson had a degenerative brain condition, and concerns were raised that she
may have had vCJD. The state health department, CDC and the University of
Virginia were involved in testing to determine the cause of death and
whether it indicated a public health concern.

“There’s no threat to the general public,” said Michelle Peregoy, a Virginia
Department of Health spokeswoman, said this afternoon. She would not say
more, citing patient confidentiality issues.

THIS case will be anything but nvCJD. how could it be? the victim never left
the USA, and the USA does not have BSE $$$ ...TSS

April 10, 2008 For Information Contact:

Diane Powers, 804-864-7008 A.J. Hostetler, 804-864-7553 Larry Hill,
PORTSMOUTH WOMAN Ongoing consultation with the CDC, international medical
experts and the Portsmouth Health Department indicates that there is no risk
to the public’s health

(Richmond, Va.)—The Virginia Department of Health (VDH) is investigating the
recent illness of a Portsmouth woman who died April 9, 2008. The patient
suffered from encephalopathy which is a degenerative disease of the brain.

“Our hearts go out to the family of this young woman,” said Portsmouth
District Health Director, Demetria Lindsay, M.D. “This is a very sad time
and we extend our earnest condolences to the family and loved ones.”

An MRI, or brain scan, has been sent to the Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention (CDC) for analysis. Additional tests will be conducted by the
University of Virginia and the National Prion Disease Pathology Surveillance
Center. The final results of all tests are expected to take several months.

Recent news reports have linked variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (vCJD) to
the patient’s illness. “There are a wide variety of causes of
encephalopathy,” explained State Health Commissioner, Karen Remley, M.D.,
M.B.A. “Infections, lack of oxygen to the brain, liver failure, kidney
failure, toxic exposures, metabolic diseases, brain tumors, increased
intracranial pressure, and poor nutrition are all related to encephalopathy.
Further testing is the only way to know what caused this illness.”

VCJD is a very rare neurodegenerative disease linked to consumption of beef
infected with bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) and is invariably
fatal. At least 200 cases have been reported worldwide since 1996. Diagnosis
of the disease can be difficult and time consuming. VCJD differs from
Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD) in that CJD is not linked to beef
consumption. While both are very rare brain disorders, the two are different
diseases. Neither is spread casually from person to person.

“To date there have been three cases of vCJD reported in U.S. residents, all
of whom were exposed outside the country,” adds Dr. Remley.

For more information about vCJD and CJD visit,, and


snip... As for the statement about the newest case of vCJD that person has
never left her state once in her life. So it makes sense she at primarily US

hey there question, that SUSPECT case of nvCJD in a 22 year old HAS NOT BEEN
CONFIRMED. and until an autopsy is done, it could be any one of a number of
these illnesses ;

Degenerative dementias as rapidly progressive dementias

Prion diseases Typically chronic degenerative dementias Autoimmune
encephalopathies (paraneoplastic and nonparaneoplastic) Vascular etiologies
of rapidly progressive dementia Infectious Etiologies Malignancies causing
rapidly progressive dementia Toxic-metabolic conditions Nonorganic
(psychiatric) causes of rapidly progressive dementia

WE will have to wait and see what they call this case. since the victim died
last week, it should only take a week or two for autopsy results, but a
reality check says it will probably be more like one or two months, and then
IF it is a TSE, it will be anything but nvCJD. probably some atypical
sporadic CJD.

there is also another SUSPECT nvCJD case that is 26 years old.

NOW, as far as comparing apples and oranges i.e. canada and usa bse (typical
or atypical), here are the latest comments from the PRION UNIT in America ;


Prion surveillance in cattle has been reduced by 90% (from about 470,000 to
40,000 in the U.S. in 2007 out of about 35 million cattle slaughtered).
Termination of human prion surveillance would therefore remove the second
line of surveillance, thereby eliminating prion surveillance in the U.S.
entirely. This development would be extremely worrisome in view of recent
reports that precautions to limit the spread of the prion infectious agent
may not have been followed in some slaughter houses in the U.S. Cattle
affected with bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) continue to be
discovered in Canada, which has more rigorous BSE surveillance than the U.S.
At the same time, Canada imposes few limitations in the trade of potentially
prion-infectious cattle with the U.S.


Atypical forms of BSE have emerged which, although rare, appear to be more
virulent than the classical BSE that causes vCJD.

Sincerely, Pierluigi Gambetti, MD Director, National Prion Disease Pathology
Surveillance Center

Stephen M. Sergay, MB, BCh President, American Academy of Neurology

please see full text with additional comments and links @ ;


i am reminded of a few things deep throat told me years ago;

================================================== ==========

The most frightening thing I have read all day is the report of Gambetti's
finding of a new strain of sporadic cjd in young people.........Dear God,
what in the name of all that is holy is that!!!If the US has different
strains of scrapie.....why????than the UK...then would the same mechanisms
that make different strains of scrapie here make different strains of
BSE...if the patterns are different in sheep and mice for scrapie.....could
not the BSE be different in the cattle, in the mink, in the humans.......I
really think the slides or tissues and everything from these young people
with the new strain of sporadic cjd should be put up to be analyzed by many,
many experts in cjd........bse.....scrapie Scrape the damn slide and put it
into mice.....wait.....chop up the mouse brain and and spinal
cord........put into some more mice.....dammit amplify the thing and start
the damned research.....This is NOT rocket science...we need to use what we
know and get off our butts and move....the whining about how long everything
takes.....well it takes a whole lot longer if you whine for a year and then
start the research!!!

Not sure where I read this but it was a recent press release or something
like that:I thought I would fall out of my chair when I read about how there
was no worry about infectivity from a histopath slide or tissues because
they are preserved in formic acid, or formalin or formaldehyde.....forGod's
sake........ Ask any pathologist in the UK what the brain tissues in the
formalin looks like after is a big fat sponge...the agent
continues to eat the brain can't make slides anymore because the
agent has never stopped........and the old slides that are stained with
Hemolysin and Eosin......they get holier and holier and degenerateand
continue...what you looked at 6 months ago is not there........Gambetti
better be photographing every damned thing he is looking at.....

Okay, you need to know. You don't need to pass it on as nothing will come of
it and there is not a damned thing anyone can do about it. Don't even hint
at it as it will be denied and laughed at..........USDA is gonna do as
little as possible until there is actually a human case in the USA of the
nvcjd........if you want to move this thing along and shake the
earth....then we gotta get the victims families to make sure whoever is
doing the autopsy is credible, trustworthy, and a saint with the courage of
Joan of Arc........I am not kidding!!!! so, unless we get a human death from
EXACTLY the same form with EXACTLY the same histopath lesions as seenin the
UK nvcjd........forget any is ALL gonna be sporadic!!!

And, if there is a case.......there is gonna be every effort to link it to
international travel, international food, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. They will
go so far as to find out if a sex partner hadever traveled to the UK/europe,
etc. etc. ....It is gonna be a long, lonely, dangerous twisted journey to
the truth. They have all the cards, all the money, and are willing to
threaten and carry out those threats....and this may be their biggest

Thanks as always for your help.(Recently had a very startling revelation
from a rather senior person in government here..........knocked me out of my must keep pushing. If I was a power person....I would be
demanding that there be at least a million bovine tested as soon as possible
and agressively seeking this disease. The big players are coming out of the
wood work as there is money to be made!!!In short: "FIRE AT WILL"!!! for the
very dumb....who's "will"! "Will be the burden to bare if there is any

again it was said years ago and it should be taken seriously....BSE will
NEVER be found in theUS! As for the BSE conference call...I think you did a
great service to freedom of information and making some people feign
integrity...I find it scary to see that most of the "experts" are employed
by the federal government or are supported on the "teat" of federal funds. A
scary picture! I hope there is a confidential panel organized by the new
government to really investigate this thing.

You need to watch your back........but keep picking at a
buzzard to the just may get to the truth!!! (You probably have
more support than you know. Too many people are afraid to show you or let
anyone else know. I have heard a few things ask the questions
that everyone else is too afraid to ask.)

greetings again voice,

then i remind everyone to read this;

'As implied in the Inset 25 we must not assume that transmission of BSE to
other species will invariably present pathology typical of a scrapie-like


Regarding the Safety of the U.S. Food Supply

May 4, 2008

"Good evening. I am Dr. Richard Raymond, Under Secretary for Food Safety at
the U.S. Department of Agriculture. I appreciate the opportunity to discuss
with you the safety of the U.S. beef supply. I want to be sure that you are
aware that I will be discussing food safety issues only, and I am not here
this evening to discuss negotiations. "The U.S. Government believes the
current agreement well addresses the health and food safety concerns of
Korean consumers. It provides for Korea's sovereign right to conduct an
audit of our facilities and to work with USDA inspection authorities if any
food safety concerns are identified. When the OIE gave the United States
"controlled risk" status a year ago, it was after the world's BSE experts
reviewed the preventative and food safety measures in the United States.
"Since the requirements to export to Korea are consistent with science, U.S.
requirements as well as those of the OIE require that if any food safety
concern is found, it would be fully investigated and immediately corrected
by USDA. "I want to assure all consumers - both domestic and abroad - that
the U.S. beef supply is among the safest in the world. ...

*please* see full text with some additional information the good Dr. Raymond

seems to have forgotten about. it's about your children. ...

Wednesday, April 30, 2008

Health group urges overhaul of US food safety system Calling the US food
safety system antiquated and disjointed, a public health advocacy group
today urged a major overhaul to make the system stronger, more coherent, and
better attuned to today's major threats.

Progress Report from the National Prion Disease Pathology Surveillance
Center April 3, 2008

Progress Report from the National Prion Disease Pathology Surveillance

An Update from Stephen M. Sergay, MB, BCh & Pierluigi Gambetti, MD

April 3, 2008

Dear Member:

Once again we are writing to thank you for your continued support in
enhancing surveillance of prion diseases in the United States and to bring
you up to date on the National Prion Disease Pathology Surveillance Center

In large part because of your support, the number of cases examined by
biopsy, autopsy and 14-3-3 protein determination has increased significantly
over the years (see Tables 1 and 2). We are now able to establish a
definitive diagnosis of prion disease in an estimated 60-70% of the cases in
the United States, a percentage which exceeds that in even some major
surveillance centers. In addition, we receive from you cerebrospinal fluid
(CSF) for 14-3-3 determination, a surrogate protein which is helpful in the
diagnosis of prion disease, probably in most if not all cases of suspected
Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD). We are making constant efforts to reach our
goal of at least 80% definitively diagnosed cases.

The major obstacle to our further increasing the autopsy rate remains the
inadequate reporting of suspected cases of CJD to the NPDPSC or to the State
Health Department, which in turn would notify us. Since you are the one
likely to request the 14-3-3 test on these cases, please include in your
request the information needed to contact you, which we will do if the test
proves positive. If your institution uses a referral laboratory to send us
the CSF, please provide your name, phone, and fax numbers to the lab, which
will in turn submit it to us along with the sample. If this information is
missing in the request accompanying the CSF sample (as it happens in about
30% of the cases), we will be unable to contact the caregiving physician.
Having your contact information would also allow us to send results directly
to you, thus reducing turnaround times. ...


Prion surveillance in cattle has been reduced by 90% (from about 470,000 to
40,000 in the U.S. in 2007 out of about 35 million cattle slaughtered).
Termination of human prion surveillance would therefore remove the second
line of surveillance, thereby eliminating prion surveillance in the U.S.
entirely. This development would be extremely worrisome in view of recent
reports that precautions to limit the spread of the prion infectious agent
may not have been followed in some slaughter houses in the U.S. Cattle
affected with bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) continue to be
discovered in Canada, which has more rigorous BSE surveillance than the U.S.
At the same time, Canada imposes few limitations in the trade of potentially
prion-infectious cattle with the U.S.


Atypical forms of BSE have emerged which, although rare, appear to be more
virulent than the classical BSE that causes vCJD.

please see full text with additional comments and links @ ;

Another Young Suspect Vcjd Case In Usa (3rd In Recent Weeks), TRANSMISSIBLE

THESE cases that have come about recently in the very young are most

a 22 year old last week died, she is suspect nvCJD. never left US.
PORTSMOUTH, Va. -- A 22-year-old Portsmouth woman is close to dying, and
family says doctors believe the human equivalent of Mad Cow Disease could be
the reason.

another young female suspect nvCJD that is 26 years old in Alabama, She is
in the final stages of CJD. She is at home in a hospital bed...very
skinny...and at times in the past month has had some eating and swallowing
issues. Sometimes she rallies and starts eating again. She stopped walking
at Christmas. they do not expect her to live much longer than May, since
that would be 14 months since her first major symptom of CJD (personal

AND now, a 3rd young female, 23 years old. hmmm, i am pondering about just
how long all those downers were in the school lunch program, and IS the
incubation period catching up now ??? is this a first of many more to come

see full text ;

THE only fool is one who fools himself, and GW and his administration and
their junk science will fool humans for just so long, then the incubation
will catch up. none of this was about science, it was all about commodities
and futures and the exporting of beef. nothing else mattered, literally,
just ask old stanley prusiner the nobel prize winner for the PRION, what did
old stan say ;



“nothing matters, except beef from Canada under 30 months bone in beef
product, that’s ALL THAT MATTERS!”


Senator Michael Machado from California

”USDA does not know what’s going on”. ”USDA is protecting the industry”. ”
SHOULD the state of California step in”

Stanley Prusiner

”nobody has ever ask us to comment”

”they don’t want us to comment”

”they never ask”

i tried to see Venemon, after Canadian cow was discovered with BSE. went to
see lyle. after talking with him…

absolute ignorance…

then thought i should see Venemon…

it was clear his entire policy was to get cattle boneless beef prods across
the border…

nothing else mattered…

his aids confirmed this…

5 times i tried to see Venemon, never worked…

eventually met with carl rove the political…

he is the one that arranged meeting with Venemon…

just trying to give you a sense of the distance…

threat to health public safety…

was never contacted…

yes i believe that prions are bad to eat and you can die from them…END

Dr. Stan bashing Ann Veneman - 3 minutes - Damning testimony

File Name: USDA DON'T ASK DON'T TELL POLICY 02snip.rpm

DAMNING testimony of consumer consumption of Washington mad cow in

In this context, a word is in order about the US testing program. After the
discovery of the first (imported) cow in 2003, the magnitude of testing was
much increased, reaching a level of >400,000 tests in 2005 (Figure 4).
Neither of the 2 more recently indigenously infected older animals with
nonspecific clinical features would have been detected without such testing,
and neither would have been identified as atypical without confirmatory
Western blots. Despite these facts, surveillance has now been decimated to
40,000 annual tests (USDA news release no. 0255.06, July 20, 2006) and
invites the accusation that the United States will never know the true
status of its involvement with BSE.

In short, a great deal of further work will need to be done before the
phenotypic features and prevalence of atypical BSE are understood. More than
a single strain may have been present from the beginning of the epidemic,
but this possibility has been overlooked by virtue of the absence of
widespread Western blot confirmatory testing of positive screening test
results; or these new phenotypes may be found, at least in part, to result
from infections at an older age by a typical BSE agent, rather than neonatal
infections with new "strains" of BSE. Neither alternative has yet been


The U.S. Department of Agriculture was quick to assure the public earlier
this week that the third case of mad cow disease did not pose a risk to
them, but what federal officials have not acknowledged is that this latest
case indicates the deadly disease has been circulating in U.S. herds for at
least a decade.

The second case, which was detected last year in a Texas cow and which USDA
officials were reluctant to verify, was approximately 12 years old.

These two cases (the latest was detected in an Alabama cow) present a
picture of the disease having been here for 10 years or so, since it is
thought that cows usually contract the disease from contaminated feed they
consume as calves. The concern is that humans can contract a fatal,
incurable, brain-wasting illness from consuming beef products contaminated
with the mad cow pathogen.

"The fact the Texas cow showed up fairly clearly implied the existence of
other undetected cases," Dr. Paul Brown, former medical director of the
National Institutes of Health's Laboratory for Central Nervous System
Studies and an expert on mad cow-like diseases, told United Press
International. "The question was, 'How many?' and we still can't answer

Brown, who is preparing a scientific paper based on the latest two mad cow
cases to estimate the maximum number of infected cows that occurred in the
United States, said he has "absolutely no confidence in USDA tests before
one year ago" because of the agency's reluctance to retest the Texas cow
that initially tested positive.

USDA officials finally retested the cow and confirmed it was infected seven
months later, but only at the insistence of the agency's inspector general.

"Everything they did on the Texas cow makes everything USDA did before 2005
suspect," Brown said. ...snip...end

CDC - Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy and Variant Creutzfeldt ... Dr. Paul
Brown is Senior Research Scientist in the Laboratory of Central Nervous
System ... Address for correspondence: Paul Brown, Building 36, Room 4A-05,


Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:10 AM

"Actually, Terry, I have been critical of the USDA handling of the mad cow
issue for some years, and with Linda Detwiler and others sent lengthy
detailed critiques and recommendations to both the USDA and the Canadian
Food Agency."

Audit Report

Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service

Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE) Surveillance Program - Phase II


Food Safety and Inspection Service

Controls Over BSE Sampling, Specified Risk Materials, and Advanced Meat
Recovery Products - Phase III

Report No. 50601-10-KC January 2006

Finding 2 Inherent Challenges in Identifying and Testing High-Risk Cattle
Still Remain

Our prior report identified a number of inherent problems in identifying and
testing high-risk cattle. We reported that the challenges in identifying the
universe of high-risk cattle, as well as the need to design procedures to
obtain an appropriate representation of samples, was critical to the success
of the BSE surveillance program. The surveillance program was designed to
target nonambulatory cattle, cattle showing signs of CNS disease (including
cattle testing negative for rabies), cattle showing signs not inconsistent
with BSE, and dead cattle. Although APHIS designed procedures to ensure FSIS
condemned cattle were sampled and made a concerted effort for outreach to
obtain targeted samples, industry practices not considered in the design of
the surveillance program reduced assurance that targeted animals were tested
for BSE.

USDA/OIG-A/50601-10-KC Page 27

observe these animals ante mortem when possible to assure the animals from
the target population are ultimately sampled and the clinical signs


Terry S. Singeltary Sr. P.O. Box 42 Bacliff, Texas USA 77518

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