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From: Portia (h-67-101-35-193.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net)
My veganism started with Ornish over 10 years ago, which I began because of a familial history of heart disease. A few years back I transitioned to Eat 2 Live. I never heard of McDougall until a couple of years ago. Many of the posters on his board put so much faith in his "views," with what appears to be no regard for the science. For example, people have posted that Dr. McD doesn't advocate B12, so they won't use it, or they won't use supplements because Dr. McD says supplements are bad, even though taking a vitamin-mineral daily supplement is considered cheap insurance, no matter what "diet" one follows. (But I did notice a recent post indicating a flax supplement McDougall apparently recommended.) He recommends a high-starch program, even though I don't see how anybody can possibly get micronutrient requirements met with less than 3,000 calories a day on a starch-based eating plan. He advocates only 2 pieces of fruit per day. Even the USDA "pyramid" recommends more fruit than that, and I consider their recommendations to be suspect! I've always been a little bewildered by this faith in a program that seems not to be in keeping with scientific findings. I will admit that I have not read McDougall's books, although his program sounds like a vegan Ornish plan. However, Ornish never restricted fruit, if my memory serves correctly. And Ornish seems to change his diet with new clinical and scientific findings. Has McDougall been known to change his recs based on scientific research?
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