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From: Claudia (197.117.124.24.cm.sunflower.com)
Subject:         Re: return to program
Date: September 30, 2007 at 5:08 am PST

In Reply to: return to program posted by Beth on September 27, 2007 at 6:20 am:

Hi, I don't see a problem with rapid weight loss, when you are
simultaneously flooding your body with all the nutrients it needs.
You are correct to note that Dr. Fuhrman is not in full agreement
with everything Walford (thats who I saw quoted on the CRON
website) has ever said. If I'm not mistaken, Walford also
popularized the idea that certain fruits and vegetables shouldn't be
eaten together at the same meal, and Dr. Fuhrman tells us that
such a claim has absolutely no medical or scientific basis, and is
false. While it is true that Dr. Fuhrman is an expert on therapeutic
water fasting, and that he may have been influenced by Walford
and the Natural Hygeine movement, this does not mean that he
agrees with all of Walford's ideas, as he has found some to be
lacking in scientific merit.

In the extreme case, for people who are morbidly obese, the extra
weight is a very serious and life threatening health problem, and
the faster the weight comes off, clearly the better in terms of their
survival and health.

Furthermore, any extra fat that you have around the waistline is
considered a health risk, and its probably better to get rid of it
sooner rather than later. As far as how fast you personally will lose
weight, it probably won't be so lightening fast if you are already
pretty close to your ideal weight. Those with more weight to lose,
and thus a greater need to lose it, will tend to take it off faster.
Usually the most common concerns with rapid weight loss (and
these were not the concerns voiced by Walford) are that 1) if weight
is lost too quickly, it might mean that the person isn't eating
enough to get adequate nutrition, and 2) if weight is lost quickly, it
will also be gained back quickly, and not be as likely to be
maintained.

As for #1, on a very nutrient dense diet this is not an issue because
nutrition is maximized while a person eats less calories than they
previously were.

As for #2, this is based on the idea that we should all do things in
moderation, and not go to any extremes, because for each action
there is an equal and opposite reaction. For example, people who
starve themselves to lose weight will eventually lose control, and
swing over to the opposite side by binge eating, where they want
to eat everything in sight. Most diets do not work in terms of
permanent weight loss, as most overweight people tend to do a lot
of yo-yo-ing, where they lose lots of weight, only to gain it back
again. Dr. Fuhrman has stated that losing weight only to gain it
back again is actually even more unhealthy than if you never lost
the weight in the first place.

Anyway.... what differentiates Eat to Live, is that it is so nutritious,
and so satisfying that it is permanently sustainable. People are
able to lose a lot of weight fairly quickly, and are very successful in
keeping it off. It is not a situation where people are starving
themselves or feeling deprived, and then suddenly snapping and
going off the diet. Those who have been doing this for awhile
would not want to go back to eating any other way, and the un-
healthy foods they used to eat lose their appeal. This has nothing
at all to do with calorie restriction through will power. It is all
about adopting an enjoyable, healthy new way of eating, which
happens to have the side effect of causing you to shed the
unhealthy pounds that need to be shedded, and to simultaneously
optimize your health and longevity.

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