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From: Claudia (host-66-205-110-190.classicnet.net)
Subject: Re: thoughts on day 3
Date: October 27, 2004 at 7:30 pm PST

In Reply to: thoughts on day 3 posted by college vegan on October 27, 2004 at 5:36 pm:

College Vegan,

As far as the constipation goes, I'm not really sure why you have it, but my husband and I
find that the carrot citrus cocktails we have for breakfast tend to be stimulating and get
things moving rather quickly, so to speak. Other people apparently have found carrots or
carrot juice to have the same effect on them. Here is how we make the carrot citrus cocktail
recipe: 6 ounces baby carrots, 1/8 of a lemon (w/peel), 1 can crushed pineapple, 2 cups of
ice. Blend all of the above in vitamix, first quickly turning from speed 1 to 10, and then flip
to high speed for 1 minute. You could try this in a blender if you don't have a vitamix. Not
only is this a good way to avoid the constipation problem, you might also find that its a good
way to get in some raw veggies. Carrot and pineapple is a nice combo, and the pineapple
will sweeten things up for you.

As someone who has been known to stuff herself on this diet while I was losing weight (I
have lost all my weight now) I sure don't like having you feel like you are starving yourself !
If it were me, I certainly wouldn't eat just fruit for breakfast, as that never worked for me
either. It does sound like you've been having to deal with some bad toxic hunger symptoms
between breakfast and lunch, and if I were you I would have at least a half an ounce of raw
unsalted nuts with my fruit in the morning, and see if that can help you deal with things a
little better. Fruit and Nuts make a good breakfast. Beans are nice to include at lunch time
to help hold you off until dinner. In terms of the more filling meals I can think of, I'd have to
include the Vindaloo Vegetables that Susan V and I both like so much. It is filling because it
has beans along with a lot of cooked vegetables. Vegetables do cook down a lot, and
generally speaking, anytime you can cook or blend up vegetables, it makes it easier to get
down a larger quantity than you could possibly chew away at raw and unblended, and the
more vegetables you eat, the better for your weight loss and your feeling of fullness.

If you think the raw veggies will taste good to you with some sort of creamy dressing, then
check out my Tuesday Flog where I talk about the salad dressing that I made. My husband
and I both really love it. If you find that your raw veggies have tasted bitter, perhaps you
could get some sweeter ones, like baby carrots, which tend to be consistently sweeter than
other carrots. For salad greens, stay away from the ones that tend to be more bitter, and try
something like Romaine lettuce. Sometimes, when you buy conventional rather than organic,
you will find the vegetables to be more bitter as well. I guess those pesticides must lend a
bittter flavor ! Sometimes you can get some incredibly sweet cherry tomatoes or grape
tomatoes, and they are always nice to munch on or throw in your salad. Sometimes they
really make the salad.

If you are truly determined that this time you will succeed in making meaningful long term
changes, and that failure is not going to be an option, then I would like to suggest that if
there is any chance that the level of support you get here at vegsource won't cut it, before
you throw in the towel, consider joining Dr. Fuhrman's website so that you can get his expert
advice too. I know it costs some money, but he is the one who best knows how to make this
diet-style work for people, and I'm sure he has heard every last problem that people run into,
and if anyone has a solution to make this work for you, I think he would be the one. Just my
humble opinion. I don't want to see you give up. I know you are going through a tough
time, but I think that if you stick this out you will be feeling much better, and will be happy
that you stuck it out.



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