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Subject:         Re: Plantarian World Vegan Day
Date: January 13, 2011 at 2:32 pm PST

In Reply to: Plantarian World Vegan Day posted by Tony Bishop-Weston on January 6, 2011 at 4:08 am:

We are very guilty of predominantly preaching to the converted. It's human nature that people who don't agree with you don't really want to hear what you have to say. Bullying them, winding them up, humiliating them, preaching to them just ...confirms the stereotype they have implanted in their heads that vegans are religious extremists who can't see reason and are so arrogant, conceited, intolerant and indoctrinated and selfish in their views

You can be thought provoking without being offensive and downright rude.

Lush do it all the time. Innocent do it. Alpro do it. Booja Booja do it. Natural Balance Foods do it.

Vegans have been preaching, lecturing, criticizing and wagging their fingers for over 65 years yet The Vegan Society has less members now than it did in the 1970's

One of the problems is that Veganism is defined as Enlightenment, a priesthood, monkish - it's nunnified - it's not a road - if you are still on the road, if you got there and then popped out for a wee then you are thrown out and banished to no mans land.

For most people it becomes disincentive - ised - it just seems like too much freakin hassle.

With Veganism you have to be enlightened before you become a novice it's all arse about face. It's like Christians saying you cant be a Catholic unless you join a monastery or a convent or Buddhists saying you can't be Buddhists unless you are a Buddha. That's the key fault of veganism you either are or you are not.

This is why we have launched it's a road not a deity, if you are on the road you can be a traveler not a monk - you don't have to find enlightenment before you have practiced cooking egg free muffins

How many Christians, Jews and Muslims do you think there would be in the world if every-time someone broke one of the 10 commandments (like covet their neighbors stuff, have sex out of wedlock, make or buy statues/models or fail to keep the last day of the week 'holy') they were told that's it! you can't be one of us anymore . Even murderers are allowed to still be Catholic or Muslim! THAT's the norm. makes the journey towards veganism more achievable and attractive, psychologically people need to feel their journey is possible and worth the effort, they like to be encouraged and praised along the way to their goal. That's just human nature and the sooner we work that one out the better.

You can believe in Plantarianism and and still be a Plantarian if you are still on your way but not yet a vegan. With Veganism believing in it is not enough.

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