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From: Millie (
Subject:         Re: And, reading comprehesion could be yours...
Date: September 29, 2012 at 10:37 am PST

In Reply to: Re: And, reading comprehesion could be yours... posted by Sandy on September 29, 2012 at 8:37 am:

Thanks for your reply. I much prefer rational discussion as well. I am in blue below.

I understood you and PasadenaDana to believe that Akin's claim that a woman's body can shut down or delay ovulation to be wrong/crappy science/ridiculous/offensive. I told you about the real science and you "uh huh, right"ed me. My impression of Akin's comments was that he believes a woman's body can shut down if raped. He did not mention ovulation at all. I did as I explained my conversation with a man older than myself. You said a woman's body cannot unovulate - that's true and is part of what I explained to the older man. I agreed all along and never said anything to the contrary. Hence my "yeah uh huh" because my opinion was not represented correctly. I am used to stating an opinion and then having it reworded so that I am supposed to argue that instead of what I actually said so that's what I expected to have to do here and I didn't intend to. So I also apologize for any misunderstanding on my end. At 52 I do understand that a woman might be stressed enough not to ovulate but once she has it will not crawl back up into the tubes because of a rape. From my friends and family, I cannot think of one female situation I have not witnessed or experienced myself so the "biology" lesson was unnecessary and I felt, again, that it did not address what we actually said or implied.

PasadenaDana said: I for one was just flabbergasted by the "a raped woman cannot get pregnant" statement. It was the nail in the casket for the Rep's as far as I am concerned.

You said: That claim really blows me away. I actually had to have an ovulation discussion with an older man (and I'm now 52!). Can you imagine believing such a crazy thing? And, that does not just fall on Akin - he has now been supported by several others publicly.

The above two statements led me to believe that you and PasadenaDana do not believe that a woman's body can stop or delay ovulation. We were strictly addressing Akin's comments. Of course we understand that a woman's cycle is not always the same from month to month and will not get pregnant with every ovulation. Again, we were sticking strictly with his comments which were ludicrous.

I posted information to inform that delayed ovulation is a biological fact.

(I think it's also important to note that I don't claim that a woman *can't* get pregnant from rape. Sometimes there is no trauma (rohypnol) and sometimes a woman has already ovulated before the rape. And, sometimes, a woman's body won't shut down, even from the trauma and she will ovulate.)

Do you still think that it is outrageous for someone to claim that a woman's body can stop or delay ovulation in times of stress or trauma? Or did you not think that at all and I just misinterpreted? I hope this is explained now. Again, sticking with his statement that a woman's body shuts down when raped can lead to pasty white men deciding that a pregnant woman could not have possibly been raped. That's the danger we were addressing.

Again, thanks for the conversation (and I say that honestly and sincerely). :)



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