June 8, 1951
Very good delineation. Not argumentative. I like that your reasoning is valid and conscientious. I, also, would not eat my dog. But (and I ask this seriously) why would seafood not be allowed? I'm sure you know the biblical viewpoint of allowing the eating of fish. Is all cooking bad? Yes, it destroys enzymes, etc, but I don't seem to have suffered from a lifetime of eating cooked foods, though I am careful what I eat.
If this was a response by you, Jennifer, then I am surprised. It just doesn't ring of the thought pattern of the person who wrote the article. If you are not Jennifer, then you have revealed a little too much of yourself. To liken my serious questioning to selective 'cherry picking' of biblical passages or the random result of what I learned at my random father's knee, and placing God's Word on par with the Koran is an unfortunate error. The response that there are 'problems with the biblical viewpoint' is simply a generalization denoting lack of deeper study. I know that you've done your own in-depth thought and research and decided quite respectably the path you've taken, but the reasons stated in your response to my question are unsatisfactory. With respect to fish the issue of pollution in our day could be well accepted as a valid reason, but this is not a moral ground. With respect to nutrition, this issue could easily be solved with the addition of a few supplements. Your lifestyle choice, though I would grant is admirable and commendable, cannot be extended to others especially based on your answers to my questions. Lastly, if you cannot respond without resorting to 'put-downs', please don't and we'll just end this right here. I didn't mean to offend by my questioning.
Hi Jennifer: This is elgraf.
It was wonderful to get a response from the actual person that I addressed my question to. I know you had nothing to do with the other responses and fyi's that I received.
As for your answer to my question, I am nearly speechless. Finally an answer from the heart. I understand completely your reasoning (which is coming not just from your brain) and am inclined to reconsider my own position on the
eating of fish. Your point about the connection (albeit by instinct) that even a fish knows connection between life and death and that death is the cessation of life, is very foundational.
I myself had an experience when I was a lad and had gone hunting with my dad. At 12 years old, I was a pretty good shot with the bow, but afterward I was so glad that I missed my shot. I couldn't imagine how I would have felt if I had killed that deer. This was a God experience and a teaching from God. As to fish more particularly, it is also true that some animals do eat other animals and some fish do eat other fish, so it's not as if in God's plan there is absolutely not sanction for eating them. The obvious answer (I believe) is that everyone should do as their conscience guides (as you state)without condemning others. Perhaps this is one of the criteria that God Himself uses to distinguish His followers.
As for anyone else reading this, I'll state that I am a serious researcher in all things and really appreciate when inquiry can be done peaceably and in good order. My stance is at least as valid as anyone else's and should not be condemned at the outset. Though my position is from a religious viewpoint (though I don't like the term 'religious'), I stand by and am entitled to it without presumptions or condemnation. I am not ashamed in Whom I believe.
Thanks again Jennifer for your considerate response.
According to the Bible, milk (unpasteurized) is a perfect food. It's a living food that contains all the nutrients, beneficial bacteria, sugars needed to complete the immune system, easily digestible fats. e.g. A calf before beginning its eating of grasses, gets all its nutrition from its mother. Have you ever seen an obese calf? Dr. McDougall looks like he could use some of that nutrition.
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Oh please, not the same old "the bible is book of myths created by people to control others" argument. That is like high schooler argument that has been put to rest time and time again.
Let's stick to relevant on topic comments rath than rants about your religious conspiracy theories.
I think it's extraordinary to consider our DNA is being compromised by the dairy /meat industries. That is really frightening, to think the basics of human nature is being distorted by drinking milk. Thank you sir.
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