Thanks! I did not know about PCRM, so this article has helped me.
When I am in a group, I alternate between giving a fact about animal abuse and simply staying quiet, for the exact same reasons as you. If I say things in a joking manner, I can get away with saying more!
What is very frustrating for me is, I have T-shirts that are vegan T-shirts and I would love to wear them to the grocery store, but I have to buy for the family, and I am the only vegan. They have improved their diets quite a bit since I went vegan almost four years ago, but still hold on to what will enable them to eat their favorite foods. It does not pay for me to argue, so I sadly purchase products for them and never get to wear my T-shirts.
Most of my activism is done by researching and writing or outside of employment or family.
I am part of the atheist community on YouTube, so I have seen many people be false flagged over the years simply due to other people hating our thoughts. I assume that is what happened here; someone flagged you because they wanted to eat meat and didn't like your scientific results, most likely.
I'm so glad your account is back up. I wish YouTube had a better system in place for judging the contents of videos, and that they were easier to reach. I have seen people lose their accounts permanently, so we are very fortunate we can still get groundbreaking information about nutrition and health from you!
I also wonder just how humane these farms really are. Do they castrate without anesthesia? What do they do if they have too many males born to dairy cows for their farm size? Are the males automatically veal calves, or do they use these as beef cows, or are they sold or slaughtered?
Where do they get their beef cattle? Do they purchase them as calves? Were the parents artificially inseminated from a captive breeding breeding facility?
There are just so many questions unanswered and so many possibilities of cruelty even on "humane" farms.
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This is indeed a dilemma and one I too have been in agony over for decades. Regardless of how gentle and amicable I am while admitting to being vegan, it seems many individuals are sensitive and quickly alienated themselves from me. Many possibly feel guilt of their very own personal kind. Who knows, either way, I tell people that until I'm world dictator I can't force anyone to do anything against their will (when they ask if I'd mind if they order a murdered animal). I always tell people it's like Alcoholics Anonymous. People have to find their own path. I'd love to help if they want to explore and know more. I find it extremely uncomfortable being at the same table as those who are consuming dead animals. I frequently refuse invites in order to avoid this. I also make the comment to individuals who happily declare they "just can't give up meat" by saying "murder isn't delicious". This is another comment that I've noticed easily alienates individuals. Too bad. With age, I feel a certain license now to do some alienating of my own.
Lots of good comments above, agreed that it is an 'ethical dilemma' and I am convinced that what we say to non-vegans about animal suffering at dinner time is mostly just going to alienate them and make them resentful. Change comes slowly, vegan numbers are growing but it may take decades (if were still around)to see a real turnaround in significant number of vegan diets/lifestyles in the human population.
Setting an example by showing compassion may be the best we can do. I am very thankful to those who lead a vegan lifestyle
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