Great talk, thank you. I wonder if we could get more information on bovine "aids" viruses infecting humans -- what might early symptoms look like (prior to a diagnosis of lymphoma or leukemia)? Might one of the symptoms be lowered T cell count or lowered white blood cell count?

with humor: "the end of Christianity as we know it..." The stats are that there are over 34,000 (yes, thousand) branches of Christianity in existence today... just pick up your weekend paper some time and take a glance and you'll find several hundred advertising... and if you look further, they all have founders, human men & women, that tweeked the original version to start these branches & suit their (well-intentioned)agendas... I suppose they didn't like the first dude's ideas enough or thought he didn't get it quite, or maybe it was too constricting, or too open. over 34,000 branches, and even the original one was branching away, with Islam & Judaism, from the Zorastrian religion at the same time. All three had the exact same original foundation.

Craziness... but back to the topic. Jesus didn't suckle a goat or cow or horse or sheep in the stable. AND if I were starving or nothing else were available, I would drink animals milk. But I'm not, I don't and don't need to. Think "by design." So the bible is not a fax from God. It does also point to the fruits and vegetables that are ours to eat & no one argues that. Remember, all new ideas are first met with resistence. If this is where she's at, no amount of defensiveness or harshness will improve the ability to influence; "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still." I'm sure there are things that each of us do that could be improved upon... mabye we still drink from plastic bottles or talk on the phone while driving... sometimes logic just does not prevail immediately. Sometimes it just takes time... very long time. "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."

Peace & light

Malu, I see that you are listed as vegan but your statement doesn't make sense. It sounds like you are pro animal milk for kids.

Sorry...Your conclusion is false!

Both the American Dietetic Association & American Diabetic Association agree that a healthy plant-based diet prevents heart diseases, strokes, certain types of cancers, diabetes and obesity. http://www.eatright.org/About/Content.aspx?id=8357 http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/29/8/1777.full

The National Academy of Sciences concluded that the only safe intake of trans fat is ‘zero.’ which is found in animal products. http://www.cspinet.org/new/200207101.html