Thanks for pointing out the trauma inflicted on both the mother cow & her infant calf as part & parcel to the dairy industry's MO. One cannot be both a dairy consumer & criticize the "veal industry" for cruelty without being an egregious hyoocrite, given that both activities are symbiotic. I've see Dr. Esselstyn speak at the Vegetarian Summerfest & was wholly impressed with his depth of knowledge, understanding, empathy & intellectual honesty, unfortunately sharply contradicted by Dr. Ornish. I imagine Chelsea had some positive influence on her dad's diet, but I'd be amazed if her wedding ceremony/reception was vegan under the circumstances. If so, I'm sure it would've been reported on MSNBC & CNN as such. Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine ought to be at the top of the list of any major medium's primetime schedule for reliable insight on the connection between (what should be vegan) diet & prominent politicians. Dairy, eggs & other animal derivatives, along with flesh, are abominations across the board, and I'm ashamed to say I didn't know the facts (about dairy & eggs) till I was 19 years old, but at least I've saved some animals since then by default.

The largest cats (lions) are a great example of herbivores. The alpha lion, that ol' Big Daddy, has the first choice of the morsels that the females have downed for him: the fermented grain in the animal's stomach. He gets to feast on the b-complex vitamins that give him strength and the poor younger males can only chew on the raw meat for the blood. The cat food makers had to put this stomach digest in their cat food because the cats were getting sick from deficiencies. Now, this seems to have been forgotten, and many cats and dogs are again without the fermented stomach grains, as are most people without sauerkraut and other fermented foods, like rejuvelac, seed and nut cheeses, or transitionally, nutritional yeast.

All of Dr. Wigmore's animals were raw food vegans, except the last little poodle, and that was probably the reason for her death. In her absence, someone gave the puppy chicken, and on her return, the little one refused the food she earlier thrived on. In order not to deprive the pup, Dr. Wigmore bought organic chicken and put a little on top of the Energy Soup she prepared for the dog. She was probably boiling a chicken when the electrical fire started in the old kitchen in the wall and she didn't know that you didn't put out an electrical fire with water. She collapsed and died from smoke inhalation next to the tub with a pail of water in her hands.

Not to worry about the new knowledge that we have to protect our health by washing all of the asbestos, dye, mold and benzene off our apples, or double cook our beans. Dr. Clark added HCl to servings - 2 drops per serving of each item on your plate (e.g. 2 drops on potatoes, 2 drops on green beans, etc.)or dipped in HCl water with 2 drops per cup of water) and added B2 to the apples, kiwi, pears and peaches' soaking water. When you've been diagnosed with cancer, and follow those directions that Dr. Clark gave, you got well. Since I follow a combination of the Wigmore protocol (using fresh wheatgrass juice instead of HCl) and some of what Dr. Clark recommended, I am grateful to be 75 without any troubles, but, I use no nightshades except tomatoes once in awhile, being aware that there are residues of the sheep liver fluke biproducts in tomatoes. Her book has the whole list of what contains the isopropyl alcohol residues, also, that attract the fluke because the alcohol destroys the liver: bottled water is the worst of the offenders. If we want to remain healthy way into our senior years, we just have to research and clean our food and eat organic, local, fresh and raw, as much as possible.

The reason I moved to Florida is because when its 95 degrees F., it's really easy to be raw and there's no way a person can chow down on heavy cooked foods and survive comfortably here in that heat, you sweat so much and sleep fitfully, and need to live indoor in a/c, which is not good for you in the first place. Down here, one can eat the highest vibration foods and feel great and not feel or be deprived.

Thank you Dave S. on how to make the transition for a feline diet, if we dare.