The Campbell bashers have got it all wrong. Instead of spending time being negative and whiny maybe they should do something positive, I don't know, like write their own stinking book about how healing it is eating animals.
They just can't stand that Campbell accomplished something monumental and eye-opening about a plant based diet, so they are obnoxiously and desperately doing everything they can to refute it, without any wisdom & experience even amounting to Colin's little pinkie.
In the end it doesn't matter how much attention these refuters are getting from their supporters, truth is truth.
Mark have you actually WATCHED Fox news? You might learn a few things about the way the liberal government is handling itself. Fox isn't afraid to tell the truth like the mainstream media is. Why else do you think it's the number 1 news network. YES #1. Because they give REAL information not a lot of fluff.
Do you really think CNN and MSN will actually admit to how much debt the Big O has put our country in?
Or how ridiculous it was to actually try to sue one of its own states for taking illegal immigration into its own hands after the feds failed to do their job correctly and illegal criminals are a HUGE problem?
Or how the Big O continues to blame the past administration for his very own failures?
How do you think the mainstream media would have treated the past president for ignoring the worlds largest oil spill in history? Don't you think if Bush was in charge and ignored the oil spill for even 5 days he would have gotten the heat? He responded to Katrina 4 days late and got thrown under the bus for that, but the Big O doesn't do a darn thing for 77 days and nobody blinks an eye.
So don't even go there about Fox news. Thank God for Fox news!
Mark get your facts straight, they are all wrong. Also no need to be so angry and nasty. Your post was immature, inappropriate and rude.
Blah blah blah blah...sounds like a bunch of liberal rhetoric....uninformed, angry, name-calling.
But you are supposed to be about "peace" and "tolerance"...it's too funny.
People like you are hypocrites...all loving and kind but ready to bash anyone against your agenda and politics. Nice try.
And for the record I am a Dr. Campbell supporter, but I guess it is beyond your 'vast' comprehension that there could actually be a vegetarian who might think outside of the mainstream media "box".
Good luck with yourself.
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Ah, Denise -- the Michelle Malkin of the meat industry!
Congratulations Mrs Minger for study in depth the subject. For his clear explanation. A notice of Languedoc in France
Mark, Spark's question is valid, in fact anybody's questions are valid, and he was quite reasonable. His question is interesting, and KEY to go from a somewhat informed omnivorous diet to an informed vegan/vegetarian diet, when Health is what is valued. I am vegetarian more because of my ethics than health, but some people are more interested in what diet would be optimal, not ethical. Plus defining well what an optimal diet REALLY is, its important regardless. A diet abundant with vegetables & leafy greens, herbs, Ancient grains (no wheat), some tubers & fruit, and supplemented with some quality animal protein and fat seems to be close to optimal, from what I've learned. Personally Im only interested in optimizing my vegetarian diet, but still itch to know what would be optimal, and what diets are best for treating & preventing illnesses like cancer. Steve Jobs didnt survive his cancer, and he was seemingly going with the Ornish approach (I am aware of the other problems that may have gotten in the way of sucessful diet/lifestyle intervention), now I would love to see someone that believes in a lower carb, meat, fat & plant rich diet, intervene with THAT diet and see if its more protective.
Would you take Ancel Keys seriously, simply because he was a Scientist? What about his flawed Lipid Hypothesis?
All people -- Scientists, Doctors, English Majors -- are fallible. The person of value and integrity is the one that can say "In light of this new data, I can see that my previous position was wrong."
People all over the world thrive on a variety of diets. Stop placing people on a pedestal and claiming their way is the "only" or the "right" way.
A fact is only a fact until it's proven wrong.
So many things over the last 50 years (especially) have been proven wrong. Yet, we keep the misinformation alive in the collective psyche by continuing to regurgitate it without actually doing our own research.
Example: "Everyone KNOWS that saturated fat causes heart disease!" Right? WRONG!
I'm not trying to convince anyone to eat meat, not eat meat, or debate anyone about the ethics of eating animals. That's none of my business.
What I AM suggesting, however, is to become TRULY informed, before rendering a life-altering decision about what you put into your body. Then, living with the consequences of your decision.
This means going beyond the headlines of CNN and Yahoo. It also means going into the opposition's camp with an inquisitive mind and a desire to find what's true for you -- not simply for the sake of being "right."
In closing, no matter what path people follow, I hope they do it with enough information from ALL sides. Then, they become responsible for their own health, rather than abdicating it to others. When we get so entrenched in a position, we become more concerned about being "right" than being "correct." I wish for everyone to thrive.
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