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From: Callie (71.55.31.178)
Subject:         Welcome and some help I hope
Date: February 26, 2009 at 3:42 pm PST

In Reply to: Trouble housebreaking posted by Annie on February 26, 2009 at 6:37 am:

Welcome Annie!!

Yes, for *sure* male dogs can get UTIs just as easily as females. The only reason a female can sometimes get one "easier" is simply because the male genitalia is a bit more "protected" but this dog could honestly have even gotten a UTI from mom in utero!!

How much does he DRINK? That's the first question I'd ask. Not to sound silly but what goes in has to come out.

SOME dogs seem to understand inately that the more they drink the LESS it burns to pee (and a UTI **does** burn -- don't know you so maybe you've had one maybe not).

SOOO those dogs will often drink constantly -- or *at the very least* they will come right in from outside and tank up at the water bowl again (and maybe have accidents along the way).

HOWEVER -- on the other paw, you don't say how 'big' these accidents are. And that can be a huge question also -- simply because the dogs who don't drink, may have really dark stinky urine (which may make a *tiny* 2-3 drop 'accident' seem HUGE because the smell may be so overpowerding.

And sometimes you will see them literally bob along peeing a few drops here... walking a few steps ... going *again* and then on and on simply because they feel that urge to "go" constantly.

It can be tough to get a sample here --- but at this point I'd ask you if in the accidents you clear up is there ANY blood?? Because a dog who is straining to go (because of the infection and that 'pressure' that makes them feel like they have to go constantly) may actually bruise the kidneys and cause drops of blood to appear.

So -- frankly your first stop has to be the vet. IF you can catch a sample it may be easier.

The other thing to do, starting as soon as you read this message, is to measure how much this dog drinks.

That can be difficult particularly if you have other dogs (again, sorry, I don't know you) but with four dogs, I have two that can run a UTI in a heartbeat ... soooooooooooooo, my "water bowl" is an Anchor Hocking 2 quart clear glass bowl with gradients on the side SO I can keep track on any given day of how much water is being drunk. I keep the danged bowl in the bathroom off the living room in as "central" a location as I can find simply so I can notice who is slurping water **again**.

My husband and I literally coordinate water bowl duty so that we always tell each other if the bowl is being filled at an abnormal hour *just because* we have to keep track of it. If I know more water is being consumed than "normal" then we're both watching to see WHO is drinking more.

My point is -- it can be an effort, but keeping track of how much water is consumed (if this is your only dog MEASURE it before you set it down and when you pick it up again see how much is gone).

OK -- let's move on to housetraining. Maybe I can give you a couple of new tips (messageboards are wonderful for dissemination of information, aren't they?? just listening to what others do is sometimes helpful)

The first thing -- and again, I don't know you so please don't be offended if I say something you already know -- I'm hearing you talking about "finding spots". But I'm not hearing you talking about SEEING the dog go.

That's a pivotal point. You can't teach or correct if you aren't catching the dog **in the act**. (and even IF this is a health issue, you're still going to have re-training to do)

So the primary suggestion I'd have for you is to literally keep this pup leashed 24/7 and just with a short 4-6' leash. Take the handle of the leash and put it thru a belt and put it on. Literally keep the puppy leashed TO YOU **all** the time.

HOpefully this will keep you more aware of when this pup is sniffing for a place to go or at LEAST when you feel tension on the leash and know squatting is going on.

From there, the way I do it is I try to catch the dog BEFORE it leaks a drop even if you have to pick the dog up and RACE for the door. But **preventing** the accident is the big huge deal.

IF tho, an accident happens go put the dog out of sight in it's crate or at least in another room and go get paper towel and soak up the urine THEN take that towel outside and *put it down* exactly where you want the dog to go. Finish cleaning up the messy spot (and be careful that you aren't using a product with any ammonia in it -- that's like posting a sign saying "go HERE!" -- even tho you can't smell the ammonia residue the dog can).

Go back inside and get the dog on leash and at a brisk walk comment "Not there!" as you pass the scene of the crime but proceed right outside pausing at the door to say "Potty OUTside" and go straight for the paper you just laid down.

Let the dog sniff "Yep, that IS you!! It goes HERE!"

My guess is you have a UTI going on. If the urine is super dilute and the dog is drinking the house down, ask the vet to actually send the urine OUT rather than just assuming with a strip test that it's "ok". Numbers can lie sometimes -- and if the dog is drinking TONS then it can make a strip test pretty invalid. And getting a course of antibiotics to see if it helps may be a better solution than having to run a bunch of kidney tests (because if the urine is dilute then they're going to be concerned that the pup isn't 'concentrating his urine' but if he's drinking constantly that may not be the case!)

Hope this helps -- I doubt highly he's 'fixated' on the tile. But making sure you SEE the accident so you can quietly set him up to know better next time can be helpful.

Yes, it can be really intrusive to have to monitor the pup constantly when trying to work from home BUT cleaning up 999 messes isn't easy either and by being really regimented about this for a couple of days may help break the cycle.

Good luck and it's nice to welcome you ... and btw -- we LOVE pictures!!


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