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We in Malaysia are 100% behind you.  You have to have been in Britain during the height of the BSE crisis to know how helpless you feel in the face of governmental and industry assurances. I was there as a student and it made a huge impression on me about the fragililty of the food system that we're creating.

The lesson for everyone is clear: when the question of food safety is no longer in our control, then it is those whose motives are primarily profits who sets the standards and who regulate what is deemed acceptable and what is not. Keep up the good work!!!!!
Malaysia


Thank you for spreading the word about the conditions of meat in this country, and for standing up to those that would prefer to decide for the rest of us what information should be put out there. Am completely in support of your efforts, and can't thank you enough for 'representing' the rest of us who would speak truth to power if we had the courage and the opportunity.
Missouri


How obsurd that a country which attempts to portray itself to the rest of the world as the "land of the free" and all that crap, actually allows people to be taken to court for expressing their own opinons!!
What next - perhaps the state of Texas should take a leaf out of China's book and start "disappearances" and intimidation of anti-meat, pro-animal rights activists, and vegetarians, just in case they "damage the industry" by promoting information about vegetarianism or worse still (horrors); educate people about what happens to that slab on the table before it gets to their plate, and after....
New Zealand


Thanks for your bravery in taking the meat industry. May it be rewarded.  Best of luck to you and Oprah in this case. While I don't call myself vegetarian, I can't look at a package of chicken breasts or fish filets the same way I used to. I don't remember when was the last time I ate chicken. Seafood doesn't seem quite appealing now. Next time I go to that place with the "wonderful" seafood enchilada, I will order the vegetarian burrito.

I am furious about this lawsuit. The right to speak the truth and express our personal opinions, no matter how "un-pretty" must always be defended.  Don't let them silence you.
Everett, Washington


Mr. Lyman & Ms. Winfrey - While I am so sorry that you are having to endure this sorry excuse for a trial, I am very happy that this issue has been brought to the public's attention in such a prominent fashion. I have spoken to many people about your case (vegetarians and meat-eaters) and everyone has agreed that this is a total sham. I believe that what you are doing is going to give the vegetarian movement a huge boost in public awareness, and for that I am eternally grateful to you. I have, for a long time, had a great deal of respect for both of you, each for your respective contributions to the betterment of humankind. I am behind you 100% on this issue!
Alabama


Thank you facing the cattlemen head on! Your first-hand experience and honest and caring demeanor will, I am sure, convince the jury of your sincerity and expertise.

Suggest that the press read "Deadly Feast" which chronicles the history of Mad Cow Disease. Extensive research clearly demonstrated that the agents which cause mad cow and CJD are unaffected by the "sterilizing" methods which the cattlemen claim are utulized before the cattle are fed to other cattle. The cattlemen are playing profitable roulette with the lives of other people.  Thank you Howard and Oprah.
Gualala, CA


I am following the Amarillo lawsuit via the Internet. Some of the Prosecution Witnesses' statements should be strongly challenged in court.

1. Bill O'Brien said the: " ... (Oprah) show was scary.".
CHALLENGE: The potential horror of BSE/CJD in America is "scary"; what is wrong with scary?

2. Mike Engler admitted that more than ten cattle suffering from neurological disorders had gone to the rendering plant BUT ... the symptoms were not those of BSE.
CHALLENGE: If there is no BSE in America, how does Engler (or his veterinarians) know what cattle with BSE look and behave like?

3. Mike Engler demonstrated that, in a 20 lb feed mix, the maximum amount of rendered cattle tissue (healthy or otherwise) would be a little over 1 lb. It has been shown that 1 gram of infective material can infect a healthy animal if eaten. So 1 lb of spinal cord/nerve ganglia/spleen could provide 400 infective doses.
CHALLENGE: Does Engler imagine (only) 1lb of infective material in a 20 lb mix would be safe ?

4. Bill O'Brien claimed that publications such as "Newsweek" had informed its readers that the cattle tissue fed to other cattle had been "rendered"; O'Brien reckoned this made such articles acceptable. According to him, Oprah's show did not make this clear and so was defamatory.
CHALLENGE: The Fore people of New Guinea "rendered" their dead relatives brain and other tissues by cooking them in heated water with salt and spices; they then ate the soup. Consequently and subsequently many of the diners developed the dreadful BSE-like disease Kuru. The Fore are
described in all the textsbooks on spongiform encephalopathies as "cannibals". SO ... I do not see how cooking cattle tissue prior to its consumption by other cattle makes the practice less "cannabalistic".

O'Brien should be rearing Ostriches, not cattle; the former are well-known for burying their heads in the sand when exposed to danger.
Scotland


I just wanted to write and thank you for everything you have done in defense of the millions of people and animals that have not been able to defend themselves. Last year you visited my University with your message of health and kindness, and you helped me to realize the benefits of a vegetarian diet. Since then I have been 100% vegetarian, and I have never felt better. You are truly the vanguard force in this battle -- I commend you. Even though this trial is an attempted infringement of the first amendment, it will give you the chance to reach a much larger audience. They can never silence you. Your message is alive and spreading through the people that hear you, and spread the news. Keep up the good work!
Montana.


I would just like to thank you and Oprah for standing up for your (and our) freedom of speech! I think it's a terrible miscarrage of justice that this farce has gone on as long as it has!

Just know that there are millions of people who support you, Oprah and your right to stand up for what you believe in!
LaPorte County, Indiana


I want you to know that my thoughts and prayers are with you and Oprah at this time. I find it sad that America has allowed its freedoms to become trampled by big business, whose main concern is the bottom line. It is my hope that the end result of this trial will be a triumphant affirmation of our right to free speech.
Wyoming


Oprah, it makes me sick to my stomach to have to watsh and listen to those individuals in the cattle raising industry trying to destroy the image of a beautiful person like yourself, someone who helps millions of people around the world everyday. I faithfully watch your show on TV because you give me the encouragement to be proud of myself when I felt like giving up. Oprah, these farmers do have a beef and its not with you its with the beef. Thank you for sharing your life and bring me happy tears over the last ten years, your the best from somewho eles cares in this world, your supporter who like to me you someday.
Nova Scotia, Canada


this is ridiculous...but oh well...welcome to texas...i won't ever eat texas beef...and if a restaurant serves it i will leave...furthermore...if and when we visit family or friends..we won't eat beef there...well that's enough venting...take care
Ohio


We wish you and Oprah the best of luck in your "fight" against the beef industry. Some people are just afraid of the truth . . . incomewise. I wonder if George Bush would have been sued by the broccoli growers if they had had as strong as lobby as that of the beef industry.
Albany, New York


Just wanted to say thank you for what you are going through. I know that you are fighting for freedom of speech, but you are also fighting for the rights of all us vegetarians. We have to deal with this prejudice every day. Don't give up. There are millions of us behind you.

Oprah: I didn't think it was possible to have a higher opinion of you but I was wrong. You have moved up another notch.

Howard: Thank you for putting the "humane" in Humane Society. I have always thought people working for the Humane Society should be vegetarian.

Life is a series of enlightenments and you both have made great strides recently. Thank you.
Kansas


You are making such a difference in bringing the issues of human health and cruelty to animals to light. In this day and age where the media is largly controlled by people with vested interests, it is sometimes difficult to get enough information to be able to make informed choices. With a powerful meat lobby against you it can't be easy educating people. I consider your work nothing less than heroic. Good luck with the case!
London


Oprah is where she is because of her strength and ability to meet challenges. She knows that there are certain people who are going to be aggressively defensive regardless of the substance of their position or worth of their cause

Regardless of the outcome, Oprah far outshines any one of the cattlemen who turned a comment into this situation.  Fortunately, the American public doesn't hesitate one moment to support Oprah in her efforts
Hawaii


I want to say that Oprah should be able to express her feelings about any subject she chooses to on her show. She has "freedom of speech" like the rest of us have. I think the cattle people just saw an opportunity to try to get some of HER money. They would have continued to lose money, because people just aren't eating beef these days, at least those of us who are concerned about our health. They seized an opportunity to make money off Oprah since beef sales were going down by the day and Oprah is in court as a result.

I wish Oprah the best. BTW, Oprah is on the top of my daily prayer list.
Fort Worth, TX


Thank you for taking a stand for what you believe and what may affect the lives of every consumer of beef in the United States. You have stated what you believe and that is still valid in a free country. These cattlemen are scared that you tell the truth and don't want to play fair. You have seen the other side of the industry and I thank you for challenging it.

Oprah, I thank you for inviting Howard to your show and congratulations on giving up beef!
Albany, New York


There are many good reasons not to eat beef, in addition to the potential threat of mad cow disease. The negative health impacts resulting from a diet high in animal fat are well documented. In addition, tremendous amounts of resources, in the form of grains, water and land are allocated to beef production, which is a very inefficient form of protein production. The modern beef industry is based around the sad and cruel, barbaric treatment of animals. Western lands ranching has resulted in devastating environmental damage including soil compaction, stream bank erosion, the destruction of native plant communities (not to mention the destruction of tropical forests), and a relentless war against native wildlife, such as wolves, bison and coyotes.

Public lands grazing in the West has become another tax payer subsidized corporate welfare program, with folks such as TV newsman Sam Donaldson reportedly getting in on the action. Cattle ranchers have a long history of bullying and intimidating anyone that dares to speak out against them, as can be attested to by scientist Denzel Fergusen, author of "Sacred Cows at the Public Trough".

Yours is just another, in their endless campaign to silence the truth. Sorry Mr. Cattleman, but there are just some things more important than profits. I feel that the more people become informed about these issues, the less they will want to eat meat, which will result in a healthier, more compassionate society.

Thank you for bringing this particular issue to the public's attention.  We are behind you all the way!
Eugene, Oregon


First of all..let me say..I am so embarrassmed by this group of Cattlemen. Normally, I am proud of being a Texan, but times like this make me feel ashamed.

I worked for a group of Cattlemen for 10 years and I know just how they operate. To begin with, they are almost all chauvinists. They would like nothing better than all women to be back in the kitchen turning out those biscuits and gravy.

These Cattleman Association groups get their income from cattlemen and related institutions based upon their sales. If the sales are down then the dues are in turn down. One of those cattlemen's wives was probably watching the Oprah Show and mentioned seeing about the "madcow" thing and it started this entire ordeal into motion. They found a way to possibly regain those lost dues.

The sales dropped simply because that is all we saw on the television and read in the newspaper and magazines for a month. Everyone was a little scared. Are they going to sue Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw and Peter Jennings and all of the networks and stations after they are through with Oprah?

I am so sick of this. I may never buy another steak again. I do wish we could have a boycott on beef just to show these cowboys from another century.
Texas


More important even than the issue of the dangers of eating meat is the issue of free speech. I'm glad to see you are standing up for your 1st amendment rights! Let's get this   country back on track with the principles it was founded on. Thanks, and Good Luck!!
Harvard University



I would like to thank you for having a show surrounding the issue of food safety. I did not see the episode, but wish that I did. Food safety is a long-standing issue in this country, for both food providers and consumers. We have come a long way over our short history as a country, and we have helped to set safety standards in other countries. This is something to be proud of.

It is in EVERYONE's best interest to remain up-to-date on what potential problems exist and what could be done to find solutions. I find the ignorance and greed of these people incomprehensible and inexcusable.  Please know that you have my support and that of many other like-thinking individuals. When it comes to public health, we can't afford to be fixated on the bottom line.
Seattle


God supports Oprah.
Toronto, Canada


It's really to bad that the right to free speech, and the right for the american public to know has to be
taken to court by a bunch of red neck, bubba beer drinking good buddies. Could it possibly be that
just because the program aired during the Mad Cow craze that beef sales would have wen"t down anyway? It's just another sue happy person(s} way to try to milk someone for money.  I don't know about you, but chicken and samonella is looking a lot better.
Arkansas


It is truly shocking what people will sue for these days. We are continually bullied by those with power, money and influence on Capital Hill. I fear for our health and future generations when the "farm animal industry" -- one of the cruelest, vilest and filthiest -- pumps brutalized, terrified animals full of hormones, antibiotics and tranquilizers; forces them to stand in and breathe in their own waste;
then dumps the waste into our rivers and streams, thus further degrading and contaminating the environment.

I believe that such illnesses/viruses as e coli, mad cow disease, chicken flu and others are the tip of the iceberg for declining human health. It is indeed true, that "as ye sow, so shall ye reap." As we torture, slaughter and profit to satisfy our unnatural hunger for animal/bird meat, we sicken our immune system and bear children who, in turn, will suffer from these and other diseases we have yet to learn about.

Many Americans, dare I say the majority, support you in your defense against these men who convince the public to force-feed itself the bodies of innocent creatures who were raised under the most inhumane and unsanitary conditions. Is it not possible to use the word "holocaust" to
refer to what we do to ourselves and sentient beings, i.e. farm animals, by allowing the "flesh industry" to operate with callous disregard of 1st amendment rights, health and safety.

My thoughts and prayers are with you.
Falls Church, VA


You and Oprah Winfrey stand accused of telling the truth in public.  You're obviously guilty. ;)

I find it appalling that statements such as those you made on the show are legally actionable... at least the trial may prove to be a "bully pulpit".  Best wishes to the both of you
Mississippi


I am confident that you guys will win and that These guys will be taught a lesson that Not to mess with the Truth.
Sacramento, CA


I live in Texas and am usually proud to call myself a native of this great state, but this defamation lawsuit is an embarrasment. I sincerely hope the jury in Amarillo understands the possible ramifications of a trial pitted against our right as Americans to freedom of speech. As I watched Oprah today, I could see how exhausted she looked and I felt compelled to write to let her know that I'm behind her, and if I can find a website for the cattlemen, I'd like to tell them that I gave up red meat over a decade ago and that as more Americans become health conscious, their industry is bound to suffer. If they want to continue to raise cattle, they are setting themselves up for further losses. They cannot to continue to sue people every time their stocks drop. There's nothing I dislike more than people who jam up the courts with frivilous lawsuits.
Texas


Wishing you vindication in this trial, and success in getting the word out about the downfalls of a diet based heavily on animal products.
Pennsylvania


Go for the gusto!!! These cattlemen have been hiding their dirty (saddles) secrets for too long. It is about time someone stood up to them. Maybe when you and Oprah win the case people will see the light about factory farming and realize what they are doing to these animals. People have to learn the truth so they can make an informed decision, hopefully to go vegetarian. I applaud both of you and wish you the best.
North Dakota


Thinking of you and wishing you the best of luck from Saratoga Springs, NY...if anyone can articulate the facts and dangers of a meat-based diet, we know you can!! Hope you are well and that you and your buddy Oprah show the world what's really going on.
New York


Good luck with the trial. I hope it ends in a resounding victory for vegans and animals.
Glosderry, South Africa


Over the last couple of years I have cut my beef consumption about fifty percent.   Since the Texas Cattlemen brought the suit against Oprah, I've cut out the other fifty percent.

This is not about Mad Cow Disease nor free speech. This is about stupidity.  These guys have done more to advance the cause of vegetarians than all other groups combined.   The Lord works in mysterious ways.
California


Freedom of speech is a measure of democracy. When individuals or organizations initiate an attempt to destroy what democracy stands for, we need to stand up to them.
Ontario, Canada


Please don't let this unfortunate incident (or the unfortunate location) bias your opinion against Texas. There really are loving, intelligent people here, and beautiful lakes & hills down here in Austin!
Texas


I eat meat and like it. However I have read a lot of material on the meat issue, and in my heart, I believe I would be better off just eating vegetables, grains and the rest - it's a discipline problem I face !

Anyway, the cattlemen have OBVIOUSLY got a MASSIVE ULTERIOR MOTIVE. This is cigarretes all over again. Vested interests trying their best to sling mud all around so as to obscure the real issues.  Best of luck on the trial, Oprah & Howard
Malaysia


I'd just like to say that I'm not a vegetarian, and probably never will be, but I certainly am a strong believer in our right to state our own opinion. I watched the show in question, and I can't believe this suit hasn't been thrown out of court yet!

I love the Oprah show. Oprah always does shows to help people, she is NOT a trash talk show personality, like Jerry Springer or the like.  There was a deadly disease going around from BEEF, and she said it like it was.

GO OPRAH AND HOWARD!
Alaska